Popular Post Seasoned by Grace Posted August 10, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 309 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 350 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/07/2019 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) This can be a rather "TOXIC" topic as there are some strong opposing views among the Christian culture. I AM A CHRISTIAN by the way who honors the Sabbath in Christ. I have not started this post to get into a "Spiritual battle" with people here who takes exception to my views or to deal with people who are devisive or like to argue or feel I'm attacking their views. or convictions. I'm an easy going loving person, not condemning or judgmental, and don't try to force my views on anyone. I simply want to help others considering this by sharing my views and convictions so that those who have questions can have information and options that could help them think about this as a possible part of their walk with God, Romans 14:22 Says "the faith which you have, have as your own conviction before God, happy is he who doesn't condemn himself in what he approves" !! There seems to be quite a bit of interest and questions about this topic and I have put this out here to answer questions that I can about my choices, because the Sabbath topic seems somewhat mysterious to many, but nevertheless people here would like some imput and answer's. I have strong beliefs about this, and I have verses and history about the Sabbath that I can share. I have been honoring the Sabbath for around 12 years in my 41 year walk with God, am now a young 76 years old, and look forward to the sabbath more and more the longer I am with Christ. I feel more fulfilled as a believer in Christ and more in harmony with God since I became fully convinced that I was not only called by God to honor the Sabbath, but that by studying it out for several years proved to myself beyond any question that it was meant for me as a Christian, and that the Sabbath was a gift to me, and the whole world from God. This isn't something I do because I "SHOULD" or I'm supposed to. I do it because of my love for God and the truth of His word and love for the Holy Spirit that has revealed this to me as He has led me in His truth. God bless you all in Christ's love and His Holy name, Dave Edited August 10, 2019 by Seasoned by Grace 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted August 10, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted August 10, 2019 There are 613 Mitzvot of the Torah you take it all or leave all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned by Grace Posted August 10, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 309 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 350 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/07/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, R. Hartono said: There are 613 Mitzvot of the Torah you take it all or leave all. Thank you for your response. Sorry, but I am not of the Jewish faith or under the Mosaic law. I am under the grace of Christ. May God bless you richly - Dave 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Willa Posted August 10, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 186 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,242 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 16,657 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2019 We are not to judge each other as to new moons or Sabboths, so bless you in what you are convinced you should do. I would not want to make you or any other brothers to stumble by trying to convince you otherwise. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted August 10, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,128 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,856 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted August 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, Seasoned by Grace said: Thank you for your response. Sorry, but I am not of the Jewish faith or under the Mosaic law. I am under the grace of Christ. May God bless you richly - Dave do you start your car on the Sabbath? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned by Grace Posted August 10, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 309 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 350 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/07/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, other one said: do you start your car on the Sabbath? LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1to3 Posted August 10, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 139 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,224 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 3,075 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted August 10, 2019 Christ Jesus healed on the sabbath, as He said would you not tend to a sick animal if it was sick on the sabbath? Matthew 12:11 Jesus Heals on the Sabbath …10and a man with a withered hand was there. In order to accuse Jesus, they asked Him, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?” 11He replied, “If one of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will he not take hold of it and lift it out? 12How much more valuable is a man than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”… Luke 13:15 Jesus Heals a Woman on the Sabbath …14But the synagogue leader was indignant that Jesus had healed on the Sabbath. “There are six days for work,” he told the crowd. “So come and be healed on those days and not on the Sabbath.” 15“You hypocrites!” the Lord replied, “Does not each of you on the Sabbath untie his ox or donkey from the stall and lead it to water? 16Then should not this daughter of Abraham, whom Satan has bound for eighteen long years, be released from her bondage on the Sabbath day?”… Matthew 12 12 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn and to eat. 2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day. 3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him; 4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests? 5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless? 6 But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple. 7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless. 8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day. Romans 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. Luke 6:5, KJV "And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1to3 Posted August 10, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 139 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,224 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 3,075 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) Was Jesus born Jewish? Yes if so why? To fulfill the Law what did Jesus say about the law? Matthew 5:17-20 Christ Jesus said: 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 22:37,38). Christ Jesus said to him, You shall love the Lord your God will all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself' Matthew 22:36-40 36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Christ Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. The Sabbath, in other words, points to Christ and is fulfilled in Him. Edited August 10, 2019 by 1to3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned by Grace Posted August 10, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 309 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 350 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/07/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ledster said: So Dave what have you been doing for the last 12 years on the sabbath. Curious about this. The basic idea from God is a day of resting, refreshing, and reframing from anything a person would call work. I believe it's a very personal thing for each person to decide for themselves through prayer and seeking God's will. The Jews were very legalistic and added all kinds of requirements never meant by God. They lived by the letter of "THEIR LAW and never considered the Spirit of God's law. For me I have a hobby that I don't do and I don't do shopping, I don't go to the gym, and I don't wash dishes or load my dishwasher or do laundry and I don't prepare any meals. I'm single. What I enjoy on the Sabbath is church, having lunch with friends or family, water my flowers but not trim them. Pray, and spend time praising the Lord, take naps, and rest. It's a wonderful day of relaxation and stepping away from all the cares of life and just live in a greater peace, free from the caous and pressure that life can bring into our lives. I plan my week around it and protect it from any distractions or any interruption. This day belongs to God and has been set aside, SANCTIFIED, for God alone and for the REST He called me to for my refreshing. If I were a fisherman, I would go fishing or if I had a boat I would go boating as I live in the Northwest, but I would have to prepare certain things so I was sure to honor God as I relaxed and knew I was in harmony with the God that I love. Ya see, honoring the Sabbath is about loving God and not rules. Rules define legalism, not love. As I said above, I don't cook on the Sabbath . Instead I prepare my meals on Saturday, I honor the Sabbath on Sunday as this is the day God called me to. We are very close and he has his way of communicating with me that I understand how I should honor His Sabbath the way He has called me too. Very personal !! It took me several months of prayer and trying things to see how God wanted me to practice the Sabbath, but God knows my heart, so He was very patient and loving with me until I found what honored the Sabbath as He called me to. It was a wonderful time and I look forward to it all week and prepare for it. Thank you for asking and I hope I sufficiently answered your question. All His best to you, Dave Edited August 10, 2019 by Seasoned by Grace 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worship Warriors Posted August 10, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 83 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2,221 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 4,860 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/18/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 10, 2019 The Sabbath is not Jewish. It existed long before the nation Israel. Genesis 1, God created man on the 6th day and on the 7th day God rested from all the work he has done. God set apart the 7th day from the beginning of time as holy. Later on, He incorporated it in the Torah so that his people would be reminded to keep it holy. I LOVE the sabbath. I HONOR God with the sabbath. Because I love him so much, I go to church BOTH on Saturday and Sunday. My church is quite big and they have 5 services running from Saturday to Sunday. If you are hungry , if your church has services on both days, you will go for BOTH. https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/237877-unlocking-every-66-books-of-the-bible/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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