How could Henokh and Elijah taken to heaven before the Redemption of sin on the cross ?

[R. Hartono]

7 minutes ago, unworthyservant said:

The redeemer isn't for Elijah or Enoch. He came to redeem us. They have been redeemed for centuries. It's this sinful world in which WE live that needs the Redeemer.  

So henokh n Elijah did not need a Redeemer ?

[missmuffet]

13 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

How could Henokh and Elijah taken to heaven before the redemption of sin is done on the cross ?

John 19:30   When he had received the drink, Jesus said, “It is done".

The Bible is silent on that. When the Bible is silent on a particular incident God does not want us to know while we are on this earth. 

[unworthyservant]

1 minute ago, R. Hartono said:

So henokh n Elijah did not need a Redeemer ?

They were redeemed under the law. Now under Grace, Christ is OUR redeemer.

[R. Hartono]

11 hours ago, Footprint said:

 

They were saved through Old Testament dispensation.

 

There was not any Old Testament sacrifices when Henokh lived.

[R. Hartono]

2 minutes ago, unworthyservant said:

They were redeemed under the law. Now under Grace, Christ is OUR redeemer.

There was no OT law when Henokh lived.

[unworthyservant]

There was always Gods law. He simply formalized it after He had gathered His people and delivered them from Egypt. It's the same law of God that guided everyone from Adam to Abraham to us today. God never changes and neither has or will His law. As for me, I'll just take it in faith that God took care of both Enoch (because he walked with God) and Elijah (because he was the prophet of God), so I'll spend my time doing God's will to the best of my ability with the knowledge that Elijah and Enoch will explain everything when I see them in Heaven. 

[BeauJangles]

9 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

There was not any Old Testament sacrifices when Henokh lived.

There were required sacrifices however, since the fall of man. Even from then, Cain and Abel sacrificed to the Lord. One was accepted because it was a blood sacrifice, and one was not. Reason being?

1. Hebrews 9:22-28 ²²And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. ²³It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. ²⁴For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: ²⁵Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; ²⁶For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. ²⁷And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: ²⁸So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

 

 

[R. Hartono]

53 minutes ago, BeauJangles said:

There were required sacrifices however, since the fall of man. Even from then, Cain and Abel sacrificed

 

It was not a sacrifice for their  sin but an offering.

[BeauJangles]

3 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

It was not a sacrifice for their  sin but an offering.

Was it really? 

[R. Hartono]

4 minutes ago, BeauJangles said:

Was it really? 

Yes until Abraham n Jacob they made altar offerings but never an offerings for sin atonement.