God never demand His people to become martyrs.

[R. Hartono]

1 hour ago, maryjayne said:

And?? What next? He did come as flesh - He came as Jesus. Then what was the next step?

U know it better.

[BeauJangles]

1 hour ago, R. Hartono said:

U know it better.

Well I dunno. know. And sorry for speaking out on other than someone you've addressed. Although it seems like I'm pretty well included in on this turn in the thread. There perhaps is the interest of hearing you speak out as testimony of sorts. Both MaryJayne and myself are interested. You wanna turn it back around and go back on topic, do you? Or is it the on-going enigma that turns your knobs?

I'll follow along, it's okay. Where to now? Oh, just a note. It's 10:00 pm Saturday night here, and pretty soon expected to wrap it up till later. Not sure what time it is in your country. Wherever it mysteriously is. So far this has been one of your most quality oriented topics of discussion. Take hold of  the helm and steer this ark where you intend it should go. You give it some thought. God bless.  

[BeauJangles]

1 hour ago, maryjayne said:

Are you going to answer the question?

It's anyone's guess, but I'd be interested in a reply. It's apparent our OP enjoys a sense of evasiveness for some unknown reason. 

Edited September 1, 2019 by BeauJangles

[R. Hartono]

2 hours ago, maryjayne said:

In my experience people with 'secret knowledge' or 'private revelation' are often evasive.

Unfortunately  i don't hv secret knowledge or private Revelation, so i guess u Will b the one to continue.

[R. Hartono]

1 hour ago, Abdicate said:

Matthew 10:23
But when they persecute you in this city, flee into the next, for most certainly I tell you, you will not have gone through the cities of Israel, until the Son of Man has come. 

What is the meaning of this ?

[BeauJangles]

15 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

God did not design the killing of Jesus it was Wicked man.

Well, you see @R. Hartono, our Heavenly Father did have a plan after all.

John 10:16-18 ¹⁶And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. ¹⁷Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. ¹⁸No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

 

 

[R. Hartono]

13 hours ago, BeauJangles said:

Ever get the feeling this is going to be like a long awaited tooth extraction? 

I just run out of words out of my shallow knowledge

[R. Hartono]

1 minute ago, BeauJangles said:

Well, you see @R. Hartono, our Heavenly Father did have a plan after all.

John 10:16-18 ¹⁶And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. ¹⁷Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. ¹⁸No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

 

 

Thanks Beaujangles.

[BeauJangles]

1 minute ago, R. Hartono said:

I just run out of words out of my shallow knowledge

Now don't put yourself down so fast there. You had quite a bit on the topic of which day Christ was crucified. You do remember that one, right? 

[Justin Adams]

2 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

I just run out of words out of my shallow knowledge

Keep plugging away. Even if it is not complete, it is worth saying. We all have  'senior moments'  no matter how old we are.