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Hebrews 1:1–3 (NASB95) 
1 “God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 
2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world. 
3 And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.”

The first thing I see when I begin to read the book of Hebrews is the supremacy and over the top sufficiency of Christ over all creation. The writer of Hebrews makes no apology when He reveals in the first three verses of chapter one that they were living in the last days of the old covenant which were overlapping with the new.

It is important to understand that the "last days" was also a holy announcement that the era of Israel as God's chosen people was over and done with forever as the end and the final judgment of the nation was around the corner (A.D. 70).

As for us, everything that needed to be said has been said in Christ, therefore there is nothing else that needs to happen that can catch our tingling ears, except the coming of the Lord to take His bride away and the judgment of the wicked. After that, we will see the birth of new heavens and a new earth as promised by the God who cannot lie (Isa 65:17, 66:22, 2Pe 3:13).

Having said all that, it is also very important to understand that regardless of what we believe about the last days, we must know that Jesus is the last word that God will speak to all generations.

The final word is that "God has spoken to us in His Son." There will be no new word, no new prophecy and no new revelation to the world apart from the revelation of Jesus Christ and what He accomplished in His death, His resurrection, His ascension and the sending of the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ began and ended the work of redemption for all mankind. "It is finished" (Jn 19:30).

Hebrews 1:1-3 reveals that…

1. The Lord is the heir of all things. 
2. Jesus is the agent by whom God created the world. This makes the Word the creator of all things (Jn 1:1-3, Col. 1:16-17)
3. Jesus is the radiance of God's glory.
4. Jesus, in His humanity, was and is the exact representation of God's holy nature
5. Jesus upholds or sustains all things by the word of His power. 
6. Jesus is the only one who has made possible the purification for our sins
7. He sits at the right hand of power and reigns forever and ever. This took place after He completed mankind’s redemption (Lk 1:68, Ro 3:24, Eph 1:7, 1:20-21, Col 1:14, Heb 9:12, 15)

Finally, for Christians that continue to swallow the lie that modern and SECULAR ISRAEL is somehow a result of some obscure Old Testament prophecy, let it be known that if the Word of God (Jesus Christ, God the Son) did not mention it at all, is because it was simply not part of His plan. Since not one of His apostles throughout the entire new testament didn’t mention it either, it should be sufficient then for the believer to drop this made up doctrine and let it go for good.

The fact is that if the Lord did not mention a supposed return to a land, it is because it was completely irrelevant to His eternal plan of redemption. It is a historical fact that He dealt with sin and death on behalf of all the world on the cross of Calvary, therefore there is no need for an additional work of redemption on behalf of an ungodly nation that hates the very mention of the name of Jesus.

To believe in a fabricated dispensational out of connection stunt compared with the reality of the finished work of Christ is to insinuate that God left things undone and therefore His “pet nation” must somehow have a special salvation apart from the rest of the world.

The modern believer of today should be aware and be wise enough not to listen to some of the popular teachers of today that have perverted the word of God in order to push their false beliefs as they continue to confuse and deceive the church to wait for an event that will never take place, e.g. the Millennium.

God is holy and limitlessly perfect. He makes no mistakes, forgets nothing and will not change His mind. The work of redemption was finished at the cross for all time (Jn 19:30)

 

 

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9 hours ago, Gentle-Warrior said:

Hebrews 1:1–3 (NASB95) 
1 “God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 
2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world. 
3 And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.”

The first thing I see when I begin to read the book of Hebrews is the supremacy and over the top sufficiency of Christ over all creation. The writer of Hebrews makes no apology when He reveals in the first three verses of chapter one that they were living in the last days of the old covenant which were overlapping with the new.

It is important to understand that the "last days" was also a holy announcement that the era of Israel as God's chosen people was over and done with forever as the end and the final judgment of the nation was around the corner (A.D. 70).

As for us, everything that needed to be said has been said in Christ, therefore there is nothing else that needs to happen that can catch our tingling ears, except the coming of the Lord to take His bride away and the judgment of the wicked. After that, we will see the birth of new heavens and a new earth as promised by the God who cannot lie (Isa 65:17, 66:22, 2Pe 3:13).

Having said all that, it is also very important to understand that regardless of what we believe about the last days, we must know that Jesus is the last word that God will speak to all generations.

The final word is that "God has spoken to us in His Son." There will be no new word, no new prophecy and no new revelation to the world apart from the revelation of Jesus Christ and what He accomplished in His death, His resurrection, His ascension and the sending of the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ began and ended the work of redemption for all mankind. "It is finished" (Jn 19:30).

Hebrews 1:1-3 reveals that…

1. The Lord is the heir of all things. 
2. Jesus is the agent by whom God created the world. This makes the Word the creator of all things (Jn 1:1-3, Col. 1:16-17)
3. Jesus is the radiance of God's glory.
4. Jesus, in His humanity, was and is the exact representation of God's holy nature
5. Jesus upholds or sustains all things by the word of His power. 
6. Jesus is the only one who has made possible the purification for our sins
7. He sits at the right hand of power and reigns forever and ever. This took place after He completed mankind’s redemption (Lk 1:68, Ro 3:24, Eph 1:7, 1:20-21, Col 1:14, Heb 9:12, 15)

Finally, for Christians that continue to swallow the lie that modern and SECULAR ISRAEL is somehow a result of some obscure Old Testament prophecy, let it be known that if the Word of God (Jesus Christ, God the Son) did not mention it at all, is because it was simply not part of His plan. Since not one of His apostles throughout the entire new testament didn’t mention it either, it should be sufficient then for the believer to drop this made up doctrine and let it go for good.

The fact is that if the Lord did not mention a supposed return to a land, it is because it was completely irrelevant to His eternal plan of redemption. It is a historical fact that He dealt with sin and death on behalf of all the world on the cross of Calvary, therefore there is no need for an additional work of redemption on behalf of an ungodly nation that hates the very mention of the name of Jesus.

To believe in a fabricated dispensational out of connection stunt compared with the reality of the finished work of Christ is to insinuate that God left things undone and therefore His “pet nation” must somehow have a special salvation apart from the rest of the world.

The modern believer of today should be aware and be wise enough not to listen to some of the popular teachers of today that have perverted the word of God in order to push their false beliefs as they continue to confuse and deceive the church to wait for an event that will never take place, e.g. the Millennium.

God is holy and limitlessly perfect. He makes no mistakes, forgets nothing and will not change His mind. The work of redemption was finished at the cross for all time (Jn 19:30)

 

 

The Millennium is not undermined by any of the scriptures you quote..  The Millennium is firmly established in the Book of Revelation Chapter 20.. 

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Wow. The OP doesn't sound anti Israel at all. Or tense. Or angry.

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11 hours ago, Gentle-Warrior said:

Finally, for Christians that continue to swallow the lie that modern and SECULAR ISRAEL is somehow a result of some obscure Old Testament prophecy, let it be known that if the Word of God (Jesus Christ, God the Son) did not mention it at all, is because it was simply not part of His plan. Since not one of His apostles throughout the entire new testament didn’t mention it either, it should be sufficient then for the believer to drop this made up doctrine and let it go for good.

Sorry but you have it all wrong. The new testament is the Tanach being fulfilled. The New Testament includes much of God's ideas and goals for the world. Israel is not 'done away with' and Yeshua the Messiah actually can be seen as God in the Tanach that is carrying out the instructions of 'He who sits on the throne'. You have a very jaded view of scripture and a borderline antisemitic stance.

Yeshua and Yahweh are the same in purpose throughout scriptures. Their plans are evident and much highlighted by the apostles' teachings.

May the Spirit of Prophesy (EL and Yeshua) become a part of your life!


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6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. (Acts 1:6-8)

These are Jesus' last words before ascending to heaven. What can we infer from this. The Apostles knew that the restoration of those days was not the prophesied one with Idumeans as kings and the priestly class having murdered the Messiah. Jesus response did not deny that future restoration, but said it was not for them to know when which is to say, not in their lifetime. Then He shows them the arrival of the Holy Ghost At Pentecost and how the gospel is to be preached to the Jew first, and then to the world. 

Then the two angels that were beside them said to the Apostles:

Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. (Acts 1:11)

Has Jesus come again like this scripture states yet?

Jesus also said the following to Israel.

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. (Matthew 23:37-39)

This is not speaking of the triumphal entry into Jerusalem, which occurred before these words were spoken, but is yet to come.

The Book of revelation, which is written after 70 Ad also speaks of the restoration of Israel, with 144000 who are separated of the nation of Israel. They Are clearly called JEWS, not Christians, of the 12 tribes of Israel. Not to mention the two witnesses who are killed in Jerusalem. 

4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. (Rev 7:4)

And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. (Rev 14:1)

And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. (Rev. 11:8)

So were you just not familiar with these verses? or do you have some explanation for them? Remember, God does not lie, he made all those promises in the Old testament to Israel, and to David, which are yet to be fulfilled, and are confirmed by Jesus own words in Acts 1, and Jesus is the Word of God. 

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. (Romans 11:25)

 

8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.

9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. (Zech. 12:8-10) 

Who is speaking these words? God, He is the "me" in verse 10... When does this happen? In a day when the LORD defends the inhabitants of Jerusalem... was this 70 Ad? NOOOOOO WAY. This is yet to come.

 

 

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On 9/5/2019 at 1:26 AM, Traveler said:

That was well thought out

Thank you brother! 


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On 9/5/2019 at 1:44 AM, Adstar said:

The Millennium is not undermined by any of the scriptures you quote..  The Millennium is firmly established in the Book of Revelation Chapter 20.. 

Why is there a need for a "Millennium" when Jesus reigns in the heavens over all His creation? The fact that the entire NT is silent about a literal reign of Christ on earth, should be sufficient for us, don't you think so? 


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I am not sure about much that is 'common' eschatology. It is also NOT proven that Revelation was written after AD 68. There are some texts that erroneously misquote or mistakenly quote the Roman Emperor's reign as reported by some Church fathers.

There are many questions that modern theory, THEORY, may well be wrong about. Prophesy is rarely understood until after the events unfold. Too much is preached as fact, when it is only supposition. 

Some things seem most definite as future, and some might be 'types' of things already happened as a foretaste of things to come. It is hard to be rock-solid sure.

However, I am sure that Yeshua/Jesus will come again - the Second Coming. I am sure there will be a huge fight on earth as well as in heaven. Apart from that, I just watch world events as they unfold and do NOT teach stuff this is mere conjecture.

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12 hours ago, Gentle-Warrior said:

Why is there a need for a "Millennium" when Jesus reigns in the heavens over all His creation? The fact that the entire NT is silent about a literal reign of Christ on earth, should be sufficient for us, don't you think so? 

The Book of Revelation is part of the NT... Jesus even spoke in parables about the time when he would rule with the Saints

Luke 19: KJV

12 "He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return. {13} And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come. {14} But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us. {15} And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading. {16} Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds. {17} And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities. {18} And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds. {19} And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities."

Just because we may not understand why there will be a millennial kingdom does not mean that there will not be one..

 

 

 


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5 hours ago, Adstar said:

The Book of Revelation is part of the NT... Jesus even spoke in parables about the time when he would rule with the Saints

Luke 19: KJV

12 "He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return. {13} And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come. {14} But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us. {15} And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading. {16} Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds. {17} And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities. {18} And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds. {19} And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities."

Just because we may not understand why there will be a millennial kingdom does not mean that there will not be one..

 

 

 

What do you mean by saying, "Just because we don't understand why there will be a Millenial kingdom" does to mean that there will be one? 

Of course I understand! I understand perfectly that there will be NO MILLENNIUM. It is farce created by magicians and deplorables that have taken the word of God and twisted it, distorted and poof they say Jesus will reign on the "Millennium." The reason for this is because somehow they have to include ungodly, Chritless and physical Israel into the picture which is anathema.

Nowhere in the NT do I read about a Millennial Kingdom. What I read is that Jesus sat down on the throne, at the right hand of the Father to reign forever and ever. 

Matthew 28:18–20 (NASB95)

18 "And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.

19“Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,

20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

 

Hebrews 1:3 (NASB95)

3 "And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high."

Jesus is bigger than the universe itself. After all He is God Almighty, Creator and Redeemer (Col. 1:16)

 

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