President Trump and Japan sign great trade deal for U.S.

[Debp]

On 9/28/2019 at 3:20 PM, createdequal said:

the Japanese were so treacherous and merciless in WWII

It would be interesting to read how they seemed to do a turn around, and began working w/ the US, instead of against us. 

Thankfully some people do change....they forgive and get over the past.

I visited Japan for a week years ago....the people are very nice and friendly.    Also, I know a missionary who lived there until retiring....she affirmed their pleasantness.

Also, we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki which killed many, and severely burned many people.   Many children were orphaned.

I watch NHK, a Japanese station sometimes.   Although they have a memorial each year about the bombings, the people hold no bitterness to Americans.    Just like we don't hold bitterness towards them for Pearl Harbor.   All of us should forgive and move on.

Sometimes I run into someone who gets offended over the slightest thing, and refuses to forgive...very childish actually.   Whereas, others that have suffered greatly do forgive and seek to move on.   They are the bigger person for that.

Edited October 6, 2019 by Debp

[createdequal]

On ‎10‎/‎6‎/‎2019 at 1:30 AM, Debp said:

Thankfully some people do change....they forgive and get over the past.

I visited Japan for a week years ago....the people are very nice and friendly.    Also, I know a missionary who lived there until retiring....she affirmed their pleasantness.

Also, we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki which killed many, and severely burned many people.   Many children were orphaned.

I watch NHK, a Japanese station sometimes.   Although they have a memorial each year about the bombings, the people hold no bitterness to Americans.    Just like we don't hold bitterness towards them for Pearl Harbor.   All of us should forgive and move on.

Sometimes I run into someone who gets offended over the slightest thing, and refuses to forgive...very childish actually.   Whereas, others that have suffered greatly do forgive and seek to move on.   They are the bigger person for that.

yes, I have noticed that, that some people refuse to forgive the most petty things, while others forgive things like loved ones being taken from them. Did you hear about that cop who killed a neighbor bc she thought he was in her apt, but it was the wrong apt.. weird story because she wasn't even on the right floor of her complex.. so you have a hard time thinking it was an accident.. no booze involved, I h eard.. well, anyway, the son of the man killed forgave the officer and even gave her a hug at the end of the trial.. I am not sure what the decision was but she got a pretty good sentence so doesn't look like the jury or judge found it to be accidental? 

Edited October 7, 2019 by createdequal

[just_abc]

On 10/6/2019 at 4:30 PM, Debp said:

and get over the past.

Unfortunately.. if I am not mistaken.. possibly not everyone in Japan acknowledges some of the crimes committed by the Japanese in Asia during World War 2.    The rewriting or downplaying of history does not help atone for the harm done.

Just my personal opinion thats all.  (And possibly off topic -  sorry)

Thanks.

Edited October 8, 2019 by just_abc

[Debp]

25 minutes ago, just_abc said:

Unfortunately.. if I am not mistaken.. possibly not everyone in Japan acknowledges some of the crimes committed by the Japanese in Asia during World War 2.    The rewriting or downplaying of history does not help atone for the harm done.

Just my personal opinion thats all.  (And possibly off topic -  sorry)

Thanks.

I was actually referring to the Americans dropping atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki....that the Japanese seem to hold no bitterness against us. 

 Although all war is horrible, the dropping of the atomic bomb caused truly extreme injuries and deaths.   Skin just melts right off of people with an atomic bomb.   Further away from the atomic bomb, there were still very severe burning/melting of flesh, and radiation which affected many civilians for many years.

All war is horrible...but I wasn't referring to other atrocities committed by the Japanese, which were horrible, too.

[just_abc]

15 minutes ago, Debp said:

I was actually referring to the Americans dropping atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki....

Thanks for explaining!

What I meant though is that while some Japanese might be able to get over past harm done to them or their countrymen/women.. perhaps not all might fully acknowledge harm done by their own country towards others..?

It is something that might sometimes cause tension in parts of asia perhaps.

But I am off topic.. sorry again.

*wonders if there is a timeout corner on the forums?  lol

 

[createdequal]

On ‎10‎/‎7‎/‎2019 at 8:08 PM, Debp said:

I was actually referring to the Americans dropping atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki....that the Japanese seem to hold no bitterness against us. 

 Although all war is horrible, the dropping of the atomic bomb caused truly extreme injuries and deaths.   Skin just melts right off of people with an atomic bomb.   Further away from the atomic bomb, there were still very severe burning/melting of flesh, and radiation which affected many civilians for many years.

All war is horrible...but I wasn't referring to other atrocities committed by the Japanese, which were horrible, too.

that hurt, reading about how people died when the bomb hit.. but we have to remember such awful things so they n ever happen again. I don't know why we didn't bomb some under-populated area first and then give the Japanese another chance to surrender but... 

Edited October 14, 2019 by createdequal

[other one]

10 hours ago, createdequal said:

that hurt, reading about how people died when the bomb hit.. but we have to remember such awful things so they n ever happen again. I don't know why we didn't bomb some under-populated area first and then give the Japanese another chance to surrender but... 

because we needed to know the effects of the bombs.    They were two different kinds of bombs and we needed to know which were more effective....  

I am told we actually did a lot more damage to them as a whole from all the fire bombing we had done in the months prior to that in other places, and it was known that Japan was trying to surrender and stop the war before we dropped the bomb...     Messages have been discovered that they had gone through Russian diplomats to get the message to the Allied powers that they wanted to stop the war for they knew the fighting was fruitless for them.....

but you gotta test the things somewhere.     Truman knew the Japanese wanted to stop the war but did it anyway to get an unconditional surrender. We really didn't need to use the two bombs to get that....

 

[createdequal]

13 hours ago, other one said:

because we needed to know the effects of the bombs.    They were two different kinds of bombs and we needed to know which were more effective....  

I am told we actually did a lot more damage to them as a whole from all the fire bombing we had done in the months prior to that in other places, and it was known that Japan was trying to surrender and stop the war before we dropped the bomb...     Messages have been discovered that they had gone through Russian diplomats to get the message to the Allied powers that they wanted to stop the war for they knew the fighting was fruitless for them.....

but you gotta test the things somewhere.     Truman knew the Japanese wanted to stop the war but did it anyway to get an unconditional surrender. We really didn't need to use the two bombs to get that....

 

I've never heard this one

But it wouldn't surprise me. Truman was never one of my faves... and not just bc he was a d

[Guest]

On 10/6/2019 at 4:30 AM, Debp said:

Thankfully some people do change....they forgive and get over the past.

I visited Japan for a week years ago....the people are very nice and friendly.    Also, I know a missionary who lived there until retiring....she affirmed their pleasantness.

Also, we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki which killed many, and severely burned many people.   Many children were orphaned.

I watch NHK, a Japanese station sometimes.   Although they have a memorial each year about the bombings, the people hold no bitterness to Americans.    Just like we don't hold bitterness towards them for Pearl Harbor.   All of us should forgive and move on.

Sometimes I run into someone who gets offended over the slightest thing, and refuses to forgive...very childish actually.   Whereas, others that have suffered greatly do forgive and seek to move on.   They are the bigger person for that.

In my opinion, the worst thing we did to the Japanese living in the USA was the Japanese Internment Camps by Executive Order 9066 (FDR).  We either should not have done that, or we should have done the same to German-Americans and Italian-Americans.  I am glad the Japanese and Japanese-Americans can forgive.

[createdequal]

On ‎10‎/‎15‎/‎2019 at 9:05 PM, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

In my opinion, the worst thing we did to the Japanese living in the USA was the Japanese Internment Camps by Executive Order 9066 (FDR).  We either should not have done that, or we should have done the same to German-Americans and Italian-Americans.  I am glad the Japanese and Japanese-Americans can forgive.

I don't know... tough call:

internment camp

or burned w/ radiation.... hmmmmmm

 

maybe not such a tough call....

Edited October 18, 2019 by createdequal