Apostasy 101

[Chris1975]

2 Peter 2
18 For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error. 19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage. 20 For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. 21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. 22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: “A dog returns to his own vomit,” and, “a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire.”

 

[Chris1975]

Ephesians 6
13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

>there is a standing in faith that is not a momentary point in time. It's making a stand against the enemy. And continuing to do so.

[Chris1975]

Ephesians 6
18 praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints—

 

[BeauJangles]

Apostasy 101

30 minutes ago, Chris1975 said:

Ephesians 6
13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

 

29 minutes ago, Chris1975 said:

Ephesians 6
18 praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints—

Apostasy 101

what? 

[Firm Foundation]

14 hours ago, BeauJangles said:

Apostasy 101

 

Apostasy 101

what? 

I take it that the apostasy is those rejecting the scriptures he posted.  

[BeauJangles]

1 minute ago, Firm Foundation said:

I take it that the apostasy is those rejecting the scriptures he posted.  

Yeah well, good verses alright. But nothing to do with apostasy. Some have problems staying on their own topics. Apparently the verses ran a little short pertaining to the subject. 

[Firm Foundation]

1 minute ago, BeauJangles said:

Yeah well, good verses alright. But nothing to do with apostasy. Some have problems staying on their own topics. Apparently the verses ran a little short pertaining to the subject. 

That is just what I think he meant.  I really don't know for sure.

[Desopixi Seilynam]

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there is a standing in faith that is not a momentary point in time. It's making a stand against the enemy. And continuing to do so

Is what he said as to why he was posting Ephesians 6:13. 

 

What does Paul mean by "avails anything" in Galatians?

What kind of life and death is Paul speaking about in Romans 8:13-14?

The answer to those questions makes it clear that a passive belief does not save,

it is an active belief, a lifestyle based on belief, that is saving belief.

 

"And they that are Christs have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts" Galatians 5:24

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[Justin Adams]

Here we go again. What did Nahum and the Widow bring to the table? Nothing. And neither can we. Salvation is a free gift that cost everything for Yeshua (YA is Salvation). Do not add to this. Have BELIEVING FAITH and LOYALTY like Nahum and the Widow.

(That is what Yeshua said to His unbelieving towns folk.)

[Desopixi Seilynam]

Nothing we did gave us the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit was given to us based on the merit of Christ.

His death and resurrection is why believers have the Spirit. Therefore the Spirit will not be taken away from us based on our merit.  One must be led by the Spirit in order to enter heaven. One must be born again; by the Spirit, in order to enter heaven.

For "IF you are led by the Spirit you are not under the law." Galatians 5:18

Therefore one, must, be led by the Spirit, otherwise that one is under the law.

Therefore what avails anything is a new creation. (Someone actually changed by the Spirit)

Therefore to resist that change, is damnation, a blaspheme, against the Spirit; Hebrews 10:29.

"IF you live after the flesh you shall die."

"IF you through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the flesh, you shall live." Romans 8:13

What kind of life and death is Paul speaking about?   Spiritual life and death.

"As many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." Romans 8:14

"And they that are Christs, have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts" Galatians 5:24

Therefore we see that sincere belief leads to the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and therefore to a lasting change in a persons life, a change towards continual holiness and godliness. To resist that change is to be an enemy of God, worthy of destruction; Ephesians 5:5, Philippians 3:18-19, Galatians 5:18-24, 1 Corinthians 16:22, John 14:21-23, 1 Timothy 6:3-14, Hebrews 10:26-29.