Will God Punish Barack Obama For Killing Osama bin Laden?

[Dennis1209]

4 hours ago, Margo1945 said:

actually, the commandment is "Thou shalt not kill" .. where did you find  your version of what God wrote when He wrote the 10 Commandments on the two stone tablets .. did so twice coz Moses smashed the first set of tablets in anger when he came down from the mountain to find the Israelites worshiping a golden calf

Well, let's talk about that a bit.

Would you agree there are different degrees of killing someone? For example; by accident and mistake, by neglect, and pre-planned murder, intentional and non intentional loss of life, suicide; all are homicide? The Lord commanded Israel in many places to slay and kill their enemies; in some instances every man, woman, child and animal. The biblical patriarchs and Kings killed millions of people. Was King David a mass serial murderer? In Vietnam was I? 

The Lord created nations with borders and armies to protect and serve them; and many times commanded those armies to kill. 

My version consists of something like the following:

רָצַח râtsach, raw-tsakh'

a primitive root; properly, to dash in pieces, i.e. kill (a human being), especially to murder:—put to death, kill, (man-) slay(-er), murder(-er).

Exodus 20:13 (KJV) Thou shalt not kill. [kill - ratsach]

[other one]

You are actually taking Stormy Daniels word over his...    and the Playboy Bunny....

Really....

Is everyone who was introduced to Jesus through Paula all fake Christians?

Has he always been a good Christian.....    nope...    Have I.....   nope.    

When he was asked if he had asked for forgiveness what he said was that he made made amends for the things he's done wrong...    a bit like repenting.

He's a member of a Christian Light church so he really hasn't gotten deeply into the spiritual life of what a lot of people here have....   does that make him a reprobate...

I guess I watch him a bit more than you do because I've heard him say Jesus is Lord on several occasions

I certainly hope not....    as for his language it is not scriptural, just not accepted by society as a whole...   We make a lot of things sinful that the Bible does not and thank God we won't be held accountable by pushing social norms.

He's not perfect, but he's my president and he's so far doing the things I asked him to do so he has my vote.....   and I'll leave the judging to Jesus.

[other one]

4 hours ago, Margo1945 said:

actually, the commandment is "Thou shalt not kill" .. where did you find  your version of what God wrote when He wrote the 10 Commandments on the two stone tablets .. did so twice coz Moses smashed the first set of tablets in anger when he came down from the mountain to find the Israelites worshiping a golden calf

Most Bible Scholars would say that we should not commit murder and not use the word kill, especially since got commanded the Israelis kill a lot of people.  When Jesus spoke of that commandment he put it into the context of hating a person without cause as murder in your heart...     His own laws had people kill others for some infractions...

[ReneeIW]

10 minutes ago, other one said:

You are actually taking Stormy Daniels word over his...    and the Playboy Bunny....

Really....

Absolutely. He paid them money in exchange for Non-Disclosure agreements. Has Trumps’s attorney threatened to file a defamation suit against Stormy Daniels? Because you cannot  lie and say someone paid you money in exchange for silence if it is not true. That is called defamation. 

[other one]

2 minutes ago, ReneeIW said:

Absolutely. He paid them money in exchange for Non-Disclosure agreements. Has Trumps’s attorney threatened to file a defamation suit against Stormy Daniels? Because you cannot  lie and say someone paid you money in exchange for silence if it is not true. That is called defamation. 

Many people in his position pay people off when they have done nothing wrong just to get away from the exposure of the other persons false accusations...  Because people like yourself tend to believe the person making the accusations...

Fact is we do not know one way or the other of what happened...    I tend to not put a lot of faith into people in Stormy's position...   

 

[ReneeIW]

2 minutes ago, other one said:

9 minutes ago, ReneeIW said:

 

Many people in his position pay people off when they have done nothing wrong just to get away from the exposure of the other persons false accusations...  Because people like yourself tend to believe the person making the accusations...

Fact is we do not know one way or the other of what happened...    I tend to not put a lot of faith into people in Stormy's position...   

 

you are suggesting that he did not have sex with her? That she made tHe whole thing up and he paid someone he didn’t know to be quiet about something that didn’t happen. 
 

So I  can come forward and say he slept with me even though it’s not true and you think he would pay me $130,000?

[Dennis1209]

10 minutes ago, other one said:

Many people in his position pay people off when they have done nothing wrong just to get away from the exposure of the other persons false accusations...  Because people like yourself tend to believe the person making the accusations...

Fact is we do not know one way or the other of what happened...    I tend to not put a lot of faith into people in Stormy's position...   

 

Please, may I add...

Or a creepy porn lawyer.

[ayin jade]

16 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Please, may I add...

Or a creepy porn lawyer.

The creepy porn lawyer is in legal trouble himself as I recall.

[The_Patriot21]

1 hour ago, ReneeIW said:

I question Trump because:

1. He has never been faithful to any of his wives.

2. He brags about his daughter converting to Judaism.

3. Stormy Daniels 

4. Still Lying about Stormy Daniels

5. The Playboy Bunny

6. Still lying about the Playboy Bunny

7. The constant corrupt language coming out of his mouth.

8. He said on live TV that he has never asked God for forgiveness. 
9. I’ve never heard him say “Jesus is my Lord and Savior.”

10. He said his wife wouldn’t care if he died which speaks to how he has treated her

11. he appears to be a habitual liar 

12. Grab them by the...

13. Pretending to be racist to get votes. He dated a black woman for years. Cheated on Melania with a black woman and said a black woman was the love of his life. Doesn’t sound too racist to me, but he was willing to play the role to get votes 

14. multiple women have accused him of sexual assault and he has not apologized to anyone.

15. His spiritual adviser is questionable 

16. disrespecting people after they have died I.e. John McCain. 
 

17. Trump University
 

Christians are Christlike or they try to be.

He is disgusting and I have nothing else to say about him.

 

Much of that is either outright lies spread by the media or past mistakes....like stormy Daniels... pretty sure she's lying about that.

And just because someone accused him of something doesn't make it true, and if he didn't do it he shouldn't have to apologize for it...simple as that. Ever notice how none of these women ever made an accusation before he ran for president?

His comment about his wife not caring, was taken extremely out of context by the media.

Fact is, you say I shouldn't judge Obama's salvation but your doing just that with Trump. With Obama, I see a wolf in sheep's clothing-someone who puts on a good show, and knows the word, but is deceitful through and through. With Trump, I see maybe hes not...or maybe he's a young immatture Christian, who still has some bad habits to work out... which from everything Trump has said as well as Dobson and Graham...is consistent with his testimony. And I have seen him proclaim Christ is Lord on more then on occasion.

[other one]

33 minutes ago, ReneeIW said:

you are suggesting that he did not have sex with her? That she made tHe whole thing up and he paid someone he didn’t know to be quiet about something that didn’t happen. 
 

So I  can come forward and say he slept with me even though it’s not true and you think he would pay me $130,000?

In the realm where he exists, it happens every day....