IS ALL SIN FORGIVEN ?

[douge]

7 hours ago, maryjayne said:

I typed a response, quoting the surrounding scriptures as well as the one tiny verses you posted, then I thought, why bother? you havent listened to wiser and more knowledgeable people than me on here.

My time and effort is better spent elsewhere.

 

 

I have tried to answer you.

Let me know if I neglected anything.

[douge]

6 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

If there is a conflict between something Paul says and something Jesus says, I go with Jesus.

Ok, one last thing, whatever Paul writes was revealed by Christ.

[johnthebaptist]

6 minutes ago, douge said:

Ok, one last thing, whatever Paul writes was revealed by Christ.

Not if Paul contradicts Jesus.

[Blood Bought 1953]

3 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

If there is a conflict between something Paul says and something Jesus says, I go with Jesus.

If Paul said it.....it’s just like Jesus Said it......Paul wrote nothing that was not given for him to say  through the same Holy Spirit That indwelled Jesus 100%.....Paul was merely Jesus Secretary after Jesus returned to Heaven  and the Holy Spirit spoke through Paul ...... “ ALL Scripture is given by inspiration of God....” That would include EVERY Word Paul wrote,unless he indicates otherwise......( he did this once or twice)

[johnthebaptist]

38 minutes ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

If Paul said it.....it’s just like Jesus Said it......Paul wrote nothing that was not given for him to say  through the same Holy Spirit That indwelled Jesus 100%.....Paul was merely Jesus Secretary after Jesus returned to Heaven  and the Holy Spirit spoke through Paul ...... “ ALL Scripture is given by inspiration of God....” That would include EVERY Word Paul wrote,unless he indicates otherwise......( he did this once or twice)

If Paul contradicts Jesus, then I go with Jesus. Jesus told us to repent of our sin (Matt 4:17). I have people tell me that Paul says we don't have to do that. Well if Jesus said we have to do it, and he did, then we have to do it.

[Blood Bought 1953]

20 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

If Paul contradicts Jesus, then I go with Jesus. Jesus told us to repent of our sin (Matt 4:17). I have people tell me that Paul says we don't have to do that. Well if Jesus said we have to do it, and he did, then we have to do it.

Paul NEVER  contradicts  Jesus.....Something happened that CHANGED EVERYTHING— The CROSS! The Death Of Jesus propelled us out of the Age Of Law into the wondrous Age Of  Grace......God used  Paul to reveal many, many things that He held Secret for Millennia ......Jesus NEvER mentioned the Church..... Never mentioned Being saved by simply Believing in the Resurrection.....Never mentioned the Rapture.....Never mentioned Justification by Faith .....Never mentioned giving from the Heart as opposed to giving Tithes that were Demanded...the list goes on.....

Contrary to “ contradicting Jesus”.... Paul shows that Jesus preached the Law, obeyed the Law, Lived Under the Law and in fact “ WAS” the Law in Human Flesh   and God- who is SOVEREIGN— determined what was True for one Age was no longer in effect on “ Another” Age......Everything happens according to God’s  Timing.Not even Jesus , in His Earthly Ministry, was privy to everything!  ( .... “ only the Father knows....” )

The Word Of God has been compared to an Onion— a thing composed of Many Layers, and only God knows all of the Layers. Each Layer represents a different “ Age” or “ deal” or “ agreement “ or “ set of rules”. When God said His Word must be “ Rightly Divided”, He meant what He Said......This is where you “ drop the ball.” This is why you fail to understand that Paul is always in agreement with Jesus....The Parameters just changed. Because of The Cross.Because there now exists “ a NEW and BETER deal......Jesus chose Paul to explain it after God deemed it The Right Time to reveal His Mysteries.....God Bless... 

[johnthebaptist]

9 hours ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

Paul NEVER  contradicts  Jesus.....Something happened that CHANGED EVERYTHING— The CROSS! The Death Of Jesus propelled us out of the Age Of Law into the wondrous Age Of  Grace......God used  Paul to reveal many, many things that He held Secret for Millennia ......Jesus NEvER mentioned the Church..... Never mentioned Being saved by simply Believing in the Resurrection.....Never mentioned the Rapture.....Never mentioned Justification by Faith .....Never mentioned giving from the Heart as opposed to giving Tithes that were Demanded...the list goes on.....

Contrary to “ contradicting Jesus”.... Paul shows that Jesus preached the Law, obeyed the Law, Lived Under the Law and in fact “ WAS” the Law in Human Flesh   and God- who is SOVEREIGN— determined what was True for one Age was no longer in effect on “ Another” Age......Everything happens according to God’s  Timing.Not even Jesus , in His Earthly Ministry, was privy to everything!  ( .... “ only the Father knows....” )

The Word Of God has been compared to an Onion— a thing composed of Many Layers, and only God knows all of the Layers. Each Layer represents a different “ Age” or “ deal” or “ agreement “ or “ set of rules”. When God said His Word must be “ Rightly Divided”, He meant what He Said......This is where you “ drop the ball.” This is why you fail to understand that Paul is always in agreement with Jesus....The Parameters just changed. Because of The Cross.Because there now exists “ a NEW and BETER deal......Jesus chose Paul to explain it after God deemed it The Right Time to reveal His Mysteries.....God Bless... 

There are people out there telling me I don't have to repent, and they quote the epistles to justify what they say. However, Jesus told us to repent, so that is what I try to do.

[Coliseum]

3 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

There are people out there telling me I don't have to repent, and they quote the epistles to justify what they say. However, Jesus told us to repent, so that is what I try to do.

What do you mean by "repent"? Work on your sins, or turn to Jesus? Jesus said, "Apart from me you can do nothing." Do you believe Him?

[johnthebaptist]

3 minutes ago, Coliseum said:

What do you mean by "repent"? Work on your sins, or turn to Jesus? Jesus said, "Apart from me you can do nothing." Do you believe Him?

Yes, I believe we can do nothing without the Lord, and I believe we are to repent of our sin as Jesus commanded.

[Willa]

20 hours ago, douge said:

 

Christ is High Priest, but to Israel only. Everything you quoted in Hebrews, is for Israel....if you would like to consider this...let me know.

We are members of his body and Christ is our head (Colossians 1:18).

I agree that Hebrews was written to Jewish Christians who were returning to Judaism and renouncing Christianity.  But I don't agree that Christians can't apply the basic doctrines contained in the book.  Jesus was my High Priest taking His blood to the alter in heaven and applying it to the Mercy Seat in heaven.  He is my High Priest interceding for me at the right hand of God the Father.  If these things were not so there would be no Christianity.  That is part of the Gospel.

 You seem to make it part of the millennium kingdom.  I would agree that much of the Revelation is for the Jewish people.  John specifically mentions the churches and then speaks of things from Jewish history for the most part.