WE HAVE ATONEMENT

[Justin Adams]

Substitutionary atonement is rarely talked about. It is BLOOD shed that gives atonement.

Edited March 31, 2020 by Justin Adams

[kwikphilly]

2 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

3 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

Blessings John

I've heard you say "repent" in just about every discussion you've joined-it's fine,you certainly can say what ever you like & I'm not trying to sound snarky. Since "repent" is something you obviously would like people to do perhaps you might tell us what exactly the word "repent" means to you......

   I've tried to have this discussion with you a couple of times & I even gave some examples of the difference between repentance in the Bible & "repent"as defined in the dictionary for secular peoples......so?

   I'm not quite sure why you feel the need to add "and repent" to most verses of Scripture but maybe you can help me by explaining your definition of "repent"                                      With love-in Christ,Kwik

Yes, my life was transformed when the Lord led me to repent, so I encourage others to do the same.

John.....

   Of course you don't have to answer me if you don't want to and in case you don't realize...you arenot answering my question.I'm sincerely happy for you that YOU were lead to repent & that's when YOUR life changed-FANTASTIC!

   Now try to understand what I'm asking,what does"repent" mean to you-I  didn't ask what that has done for you,okay?

 I'm Saved,I've become a New Creature in Christ Jesus...I've nothing to repent of,it's all on the Cross,it is FINISHED....My life is paradise,I am Filled with Joy,Peace & all those Wonderful Fruits of the Spirit because I am Filled with His Holy Spirit,Jesus Lives in me-what is better than that this side of Heaven?Grace ,Jesus,Blood....He DID it ALL!

  Now,what does "repent" mean to you

BTW-when Jesus & John said"repent".....Jesus had not yet shed His  Blood on the cross

Also.although your life has changed for the better,what about Eternal Life.....have you repented enough?

 

 

Edited March 31, 2020 by kwikphilly

[johnthebaptist]

1 hour ago, Behold said:

What you have just stated, is your idea of completely  misunderstanding a verse, and you have then used this misunderstood verse to post a very strange idea that has nothing to do with the CROSS or The way a person goes to Heaven or why.   Its not even in the BIBLE what you have stated.  Not in either Testaments.  Its not even Catholic theology or Mormon, or JW, or Scientology.. Its totally your interesting theological invention., fella.

No offense intended, but, what you have described is not A Christian, and its not even related to how a person is born again.

Now, i have written you, in the last 5 days, almost a seminary course on how to be saved.  And you never have agreed with anything ive said, and usually you just ignore it, and respond with the word "repent".

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So, im here a lot, and i have a private message box, and as you stated that you've never had anyone explain salvation to you, since '1973, then its pretty obvious by what you just wrote, that this is a FACT as you are not understanding anything about Jesus's Cross or the Blood Atonement, even tho a few of us have tired to reach you and help you.

When you are ready to learn, and perhaps become a Christian ????????? , as nothing you have written in a week, has even suggested that you understand anything about Christianity or Faith....then there are many of us here who can show you THE WAY,, and would be honored to do so.

You have my PM box, and as i said, im here a lot.

 

 

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You cannot understand Matthew 4:17 till you repent of your sin.

[johnthebaptist]

5 minutes ago, kwikphilly said:

John.....

   Of course you don't have to answer me if you don't want to and in case you don't realize...you arenot answering my question.I'm sincerely happy for you that YOU were lead to repent & that's when YOUR life changed-FANTASTIC!

   Now try to understand what I'm asking,what does"repent" mean to you-I  didn't ask what that has done for you,okay?

 I'm Saved,I've become a New Creature in Christ Jesus...I've nothing to repent of,it's all on the Cross,it is FINISHED....My life is paradise,I am Filled with Joy,Peace & all those Wonderful Fruits of the Spirit because I am Filled with His Holy Spirit,Jesus Lives in me-what is better than that this side of Heaven?Grace ,Jesus,Blood....He DID it ALL!

  Now,what does "repent" mean to you

BTW-when Jesus & John said"repent".....Jesus had not yet shed His  Blood on the cross

Also.although your life has changed for the better,what about Eternal Life.....have you repented enough?

 

 

When the Lord leads you to repent of your sin, and you do, and your life is transformed, that pretty much is the end of the story. Walk with the Lord and live happily ever after.

[kwikphilly]

24 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

When the Lord leads you to repent of your sin, and you do, and your life is transformed, that pretty much is the end of the story. Walk with the Lord and live happily ever after.

Okay John.....thank you

Maybe you will pm Behold,we say what we say because we care        With love-in Christ<Kwik                   

[Alive]

14 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

When the Lord leads you to repent of your sin, and you do, and your life is transformed, that pretty much is the end of the story. Walk with the Lord and live happily ever after.

John--do you believe that Jesus Christ is God Almighty Maker of heaven and earth? Do you believe that God came to earth in the flesh in the form of Jesus Christ?

[johnthebaptist]

31 minutes ago, Alive said:

John--do you believe that Jesus Christ is God Almighty Maker of heaven and earth? Do you believe that God came to earth in the flesh in the form of Jesus Christ?

I believe that Jesus Christ is God in flesh. Yes, I believe that God came to earth in the flesh in the form of Jesus Christ.

[Alive]

1 minute ago, johnthebaptist said:

I believe that Jesus Christ is God in flesh. Yes, I believe that God came to earth in the flesh in the form of Jesus Christ.

Thank you.

Have you been taught what it means to be born again (born from above)?

Edited March 31, 2020 by Alive

[johnthebaptist]

Just now, Alive said:

Have you been taught what it means to be born again (born from above)?

I believe I understand the concept.

[Alive]

When you believe that Christ died for you. To save you. And you ask Him to be your Savior, He hears you and a remarkable thing happens. God joins you to him on the cross. God puts you 'into Christ'. So when Christ died on the cross, you died at the same time. When He rose, you rose 'In Him' and were made alive, just as He was. The old Adam in you died and you rose with a New Life. A member of a new Adam. A son of God. This is the new birth. Born again--born from above. As Jesus said, this is not a fleshly birth but a spiritual one. You nor I could have managed this. God did this for us. It is a free Gift. The gift of the Life of Christ. Along with this comes forgiveness of all sins. The blood of Christ washes away  those sins and any others. This is Grace--it is not something that we can ever manage. That is why God had to come in the flesh and die as a man--so that we don't have to. He took all of the judgement do to us on Himself. He paid the price in full. A done deal and He sealed this deal with the Holy Spirit that takes up residence in us.

He is the evidence of our salvation. Christ (the Holy Spirit) in us.

After this miracle takes place--and it is a very real and concrete thing--because of that new Life within us, we begin to 'turn from sin'--the habits that we took part in as a sinner. Repenting becomes a process after we are born again. After we are saved--by Grace. It is nothing that we deserved because we repented--the Grace that gave New Life comes first. Do you see? Repentance is strictly an act of our will before the gift of salvation. Repentance in itself cannot result in being born from above. That is something that God has to do and does--freely. Grace--unmerited favor. Can you imagine any way that you can get yourself put into Christ?

NO! Because you are only a simple human. Only God can do such things. And we very much need to be born-again, because Adam is under judgement and that judgement is death.