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Salvation67

if you want to be left behind that is your choice .  have fun.

 

Seeking the LOST

OK, you tell me by scripture what is going to happen to the Elect during the Seven year Tribulation ?????

Mt 24:22  And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
Mr 13:20  And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect’s sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
2Ti 2:10  Therefore I endure all things for the elect’s sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Re 12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

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21 minutes ago, RAPTURE2024 said:

Salvation67

if you want to be left behind that is your choice .  have fun.

 

Seeking the LOST

OK, you tell me by scripture what is going to happen to the Elect during the Seven year Tribulation ?????

Mt 24:22  And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
Mr 13:20  And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect’s sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
2Ti 2:10  Therefore I endure all things for the elect’s sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Re 12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

We don’t need to know what’s going to happen as to follow a sign but we need to be producing the signs not following them. That’s the problem. Scripture says a wicked and adulterous nation seeketh after signs. We make ourselves an unbeliever by interpreting the Bible according to signs or outward events. We need to make the signs instead of following them. 


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4 hours ago, Salvation67 said:

The dead in Christ are raised FIRST at the rapture, then those who are alive in Christ follow. Its one event with two phases you might say :rolleyes:

Exactly! But these two will happen SO FAST it will appear as if the world has not moved.


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3 hours ago, iamlamad said:

Did you notice:

"So shall we ever be with the Lord."  (HOW, Paul: HOW will we "ever be with the Lord?") Of course, by way of the rapture."

"We should live together with Him." (HOW, Paul: HOW will we "get to live together with Him?") By way of the rapture.

These two phrases are saying the exact message, just different words to express the same thought. Therefore:  we could write:

"God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation [by way of the rapture] by our Lord Jesus Christ" 

No, NO, No!  None of this is about a pre-resurrection rapture.  We will be there forever but it is not by way of rapture to avoid wrath.  It is the cross and the atonement of the cross by which we are saved from wrath and will ever be with the LORD.  

2 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.


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The Betrothed Woman is going to  be  FED  FOR  EXACTLY  1260 DAYS =>  3 1/2 YEARS

What does that tell you  =>  MARRIAGE  SUPPER  REV 12  

RAPTURE  AT  MID TRIB  

SEE YOU  IN THE CLOUDS.


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4 hours ago, iamlamad said:

Exactly! But these two will happen SO FAST it will appear as if the world has not moved.

Yep, you are right brother:D


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2 hours ago, seeking the lost said:

No, NO, No!  None of this is about a pre-resurrection rapture.  We will be there forever but it is not by way of rapture to avoid wrath.  It is the cross and the atonement of the cross by which we are saved from wrath and will ever be with the LORD.  

2 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

Look: if you wish to remain behind and live (part way) through God's wrath (and be overcome) - be my guest. But WHY  - when God has planned a way of escape. See Luke 21:36. Why do you have such a desire to go through His wrath?


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2 hours ago, RAPTURE2024 said:

The Betrothed Woman is going to  be  FED  FOR  EXACTLY  1260 DAYS =>  3 1/2 YEARS

What does that tell you  =>  MARRIAGE  SUPPER  REV 12  

RAPTURE  AT  MID TRIB  

SEE YOU  IN THE CLOUDS.

Sorry, but the woman who will flee into the wilderness has nothing to do with the rapture of the mostly Gentile church of today.  You are mixing apples with chestnuts. The rapture is going to be prewrath and pretrib, while the woman fleeing will only be pre-days of great tribulation. 


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5 hours ago, RAPTURE2024 said:

Salvation67

if you want to be left behind that is your choice .  have fun.

 

Seeking the LOST

OK, you tell me by scripture what is going to happen to the Elect during the Seven year Tribulation ?????

Mt 24:22  And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
Mr 13:20  And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect’s sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
2Ti 2:10  Therefore I endure all things for the elect’s sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Re 12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Why mix up scriptures pointed to the Gentile church of today, with scripture pointed to the Jews during the 70th week? That is guaranteed to bring confusion. 


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2 hours ago, RAPTURE2024 said:

The Betrothed Woman is going to  be  FED  FOR  EXACTLY  1260 DAYS =>  3 1/2 YEARS

What does that tell you  =>  MARRIAGE  SUPPER  REV 12  

RAPTURE  AT  MID TRIB  

SEE YOU  IN THE CLOUDS.

The women In Revelation is the Holy Spirit that gave birth to the man child Jesus at Jesus’s baptism.
This 3 1/2 year period was during Jesus’s public ministry. 
Hebrews 10:5,

Therefore coming into the world, He says: "Sacrifice and offering You have not desired, but a body You have prepared me.

During this 3 1/2 years a body was being prepared for us to inhabit which was and is the Kingdom of God. This is the place prepared for us which is prefigured as a mansion that we inhabit as our dwelling place in the father.

As soon as this place is prepared then there’s found no place for the accuser because he’s been cast down or out of his former position. This is when salvation is come. This happened when Jesus dies and destroys Satan’s hold on us because of Jesus resurrection.
 

The marriage supper of the Lamb happens at this point when we are dead to the flesh at our day of Penticost where we become completely united to Christ. This is when we become one with him in a co-union or oneness with him.

The marriage of the Lamb happens at our birth of the born again life where we receive our husbands name. This happens when the women in Revelation 12:17,

   
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The day of Pentecost brought this women’s seed to fruition. These apostles became eyewitnesses of Christ’s coming within them at this time. The apostles were this great cloud of witnesses that Jesus’s coming was made manifest through and in.
This is the clouds that we will see Christ in. Christ doesn’t separate himself from his own body. We must see Christ through and in that body which are those clouds or clouds of witnesses. To be in the rapture is simply to be in that resurrected body that was prepared for us to inhabit through the Holy Spirit as that mansion Jesus talks about. 

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