Are We Light in the Lord or Just Sinners Saved by Grace?

[steve morrow]

IF  ONE  IS WALKING  IN  THE  LIGHT  IS  PLAGIARISM  EVEN  A  CONCERN

 

1 CORINTHIANS 1:10  now I beseech you brethren by the name of our  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST  ---THAT  YOU  ALL  SPEAK  THE  SAME  THING--- and that there be no divisions among you but that you be perfectly joined together --IN  THE  SAME  MIND  AND  IN  THE  SAME  JUDGEMENT--

1 CORINTHIANS  2:16  FOR  WHO  HATH  KNOWN  THE  MIND  OF  THE  LORD  THAT  HE  MAY  INSTRUCT  HIM  --BUT  WE  HAVE  THE  MIND  OF  CHRIST--

 

1 JOHN 2:8  again a new commandment I write unto you which thing is true in  HIM  and in you because the darkness is passed and --THE  TRUE  LIGHT  SHINETH-- 

--2:9-- he that saith he is in the light and hateth his brother is in darkness even until now --

--2:10-- he that loveth his brother --ABIDETH  IN  THE  LIGHT-- and there is  --NONE  OCCASION  OF  STUMBLING  IN  HIM--

--2:11-- but he that hateth his brother is in darkness and walketh in darkness and knoweth not whither he goeth --BECAUSE  THAT  DARKNESS  HATH  BLINDED  HIS  EYES--

 

JOB 38:2  WHO  IS  THIS  THAT  DARKENETH  COUNSEL  WITH  WORDS  WITHOUT  KNOWLEDGE 

PSALM 119:130  THE  ENTRANCE  OF  THY  WORDS  GIVETH  LIGHT  IT  GIVETH  UNDERSTANDING  UNTO  THE  SIMPLE 

PSALM 82:5  THEY  KNOW  NOT  NEITHER  WILL  THEY  UNDERSTAND  ---THEY  WALK  ON  IN  DARKNESS--- ALL  THE  FOUNDATIONS  OF  THE  EARTH  ARE  OUT  OF  COURSE 

PROVERBS 6:23  FOR  THE  COMMANDMENT  IS  A  LAMP  AND  --THE  LAW  IS  LIGHT-- AND  REPROOFS  OF  INSTRUCTION  ARE  THE  WAY  OF  LIFE

ISAIAH 8:20  TO  THE  LAW  AND  TO  THE  TESTIMONY  IF  THEY  SPEAK  NOT  ACCORDING  TO  THIS  WORD  IT  IS  BECAUSE  THERE  IS  NO  LIGHT  IN  THEM

 

JOHN 3:19  and this is --THE  CONDEMNATION--that light is come into the world and men loved darkness rather than light because their deeds were evil

--3:20-- for every one that doeth evil --HATETH  THE  LIGHT  NEITHER  COMETH  TO  THE  LIGHT--lest his deeds should be reproved 

--3:21-- BUT  HE  THAT  DOETH  TRUTH  COMETH  TO  THE  LIGHT  THAT  HIS  DEEDS  MAY  BE  MADE  MANIFEST  THAT  THEY  ARE  WROUGHT  IN  GOD

 

JOHN 8:12  then spake  JESUS  again unto them saying I am ---THE  LIGHT  OF  THE  WORLD--- he that followeth me ---SHALL NOT  WALK  IN  DARKNESS--- but shall have the --LIGHT  OF  LIFE-- 

JOHN 14:6  JESUS  saith unto him I am the way the truth --AND  THE  LIFE-- no man cometh unto  --THE  FATHER  but  BY  ME--

JOHN 12:46  I  AM  COME  A  LIGHT  INTO  THE  WORLD  THAT  WHOSOEVER  BELIEVETH  ON  ME  SHOULD  NOT  WALK  IN  DARKNESS

2 CORINTHIANS 6:14  BE  YOU  NOT  UNEQUALLY  YOKED  TOGETHER  WITH  UNBELIEVERS  FOR  WHAT  FELLOWSHIP  HATH  RIGHTEOUSNESS  WITH  UNRIGHTEOUSNESS  AND  WHAT  COMMUNION  HATH  LIGHT  WITH  DARKNESS

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST 

Edited April 9, 2020 by steve morrow
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[luigi]

23 hours ago, Gideon said:

Are We Light in the Lord or Just Sinners Saved By Grace?

 We have all heard the statement. We are just sinners saved by grace. If churches had mantras, this would be ours as the modern church in the west. But I pray you listen to what the Word  of God tells us, for this  simply does not line up with scripture. Paul tells us that once we were darkness but now we are light in the Lord. He tells us that we are new creatures, with natures over which sin has no power. He tells us that if Christ dwells in us, we are not in the flesh any longer and owe it nothing. He declares that we are new creatures with new natures, natures that not only want to obey, but CAN obey! Glory! 

What radically wonderful truths! But it is these amazing truths  that satan has succeeded in blinding us to for much of the last 1900 years. Oh, we believe them in a 'theoretical' sort of way... with our heads.... but  how many can testify of their truth with their hearts?  How many can declare that these truths have given them real victory over the world, the flesh and the devil?

For the most part, with a few glorious exceptions, it has been accepted that, despite what our Bibles declare to us,  we are still, at the end of the day, "just sinners saved by grace".

 All that is beginnig to change. Now, at the end of the age, God is beginning  to wake His own  up to the truth of who we truly are,  and the changes it will bring to our lives, our victory, our relationships with others,  our walk with God Himself will be simply mind-blowing and totally revolutionary. 

 So who are we then? We WERE sinners, men with fallen natures. Like Paul in Romans 7, we wanted to do good, but did evil instead. We have longed for freedom, but walked as prisoners of sin and self instead. Are we forgiven for those failings? Absolutely! Thank God, He sent Jesus to die in our place, and take the punishment we deserved, so that He could abundantly forgive our sins and trespasses. And we have faithfully preached the cross and walked in the forgiveness He offers us. But here is the question for the hour that we need to answer. Is that all our God purchased for us? Not by a long shot. 

You see, we are told that we WERE sinners, but now we are light in the Lord…. new  creatures with brand new natures! Glory! But here we need to understand. As with all that concerns the truths of God, our enjoyment of the promise of our new nature is contingent on our believing….. and receiving…. our new natures.

 You see, it is this truth that we really are new creatures that offers us protection when satan comes accusing and tempting as he always does. In times past, we would walk well for a while, but satan would catch us at a moment of weakness and hit us with a temptation…. to  sin, to doubt, to put self’s desires above those of the Lord. And despite our desire to walk as holy, obedient children, we would succumb to the temptation and fall….. again. 

 But in these tumultuous last days, as the shakings begin, we, the church, the children of God, are re-discovering our shields and swords and armor. You see, these weapons of warfare we have been provided, work, but only when wielded by our new new natures that we can put on by a simple, powerful act of faith.  That is why Paul tells us "Nothing profits but a new creature." And as God's children slowly awaken to who they really are, Satan is about to finally have a fight on his hands, and it is one he knows he is destined to lose. Praise God. 

Oh children of the most High, our God has given us exceeding great and precious promises that for most, we have been totally ignorant of. . Listen to what Peter has to say:

 "....have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature.”

                                  2 Peter 1:4

Whoa! Is a light bulb going off inside your head? Peter is telling us here that it is through our believing God’s promises…. arming ourselves with  them….that the process of being changed into His image actually truly begins to works. Sanctification, our being changed into His likeness, is not automatic. It happens in direct correlation to our believing what God has promised us. Our faith is not to be a singular, static thing, not a one time prayer. Our faith is a living thing, a walk, and God has ordained that we GROW in it as it grows in us. 

Yes, forgiveness is wonderful. But for the most part, we have camped there, thinking this is all God has to offer us. Praise God, In these last days, our eyes are going to be opened to the amazing promises of God, promises that are our birthright, promises that most of us have, up til now, been blinded to. Yes, the shakings are real, and yes, the world will wax worse and worse, but despite that, amazing day are ahead for every true child of God as we awake to who we are, and put on our new natures, natures that can stare down the devil when he tempts us to fall. .

 Blessings, 

 Gideon

 

Next: What are those promises? 

 

Very good points Gideon. I'm glad to see someone else on this forum who has the true light of the Holy Spirit in them. Blessings to you.

[Behold]

13 hours ago, Not me said:

I’m sorry, please forgive, my intent and meaning was unclear...Yes Jesus is the Truth and all truth ultimately comes from Him. My meaning was meant to portray that believers learn truth from something else, be it one another, books, or the scriptures themselves. So my meaning was to put forth there’s no new truths, just new to us truths. 

Hope this helps with my meaning and intent..

A fellow believer, Not me

Everything is a copy of a copy.

This is true.

For the most part, the only originals are God as the Trinity, then Adam and Eve, and of course the Heavenly Host and all creatures and vegetation  made by God "after it's kind". 

Even what is misrepresented by Scholars and Preachers as "the original greek text" is really just a copy of a copy of a.....

Everything else, including Us, is a combination of what already preexisted.

God creates the original source material, and Man then builds or births stuff with what God designed and created,  by combining stuff to try to create something "new", but even the new is a product of the preexisting.

God  1st-gave colors and THEN man paints.

God  1st-gave musical notes and sound and THEN man makes music.

on and on and on and on............

In understanding that everything is a copy or a combination of what already exists, we come to realize that Only God can create an Original.

And in understanding this fact, We can point out to someone who worships Science as their God, that Science can't create a ROSE from nothing.

This can't be done.  What Science can do, is grow a Rose, or Hybrid a Rose or clone a Rose, but they can't CREATE ONE OUT OF THIN AIR..

God DID simply by saying ..>"Let there BE", and POW, you have a ROSE GARDEN

Edited April 9, 2020 by Behold

[Not me]

2 hours ago, Behold said:

Everything is a copy of a copy.

This is true.

For the most part, the only originals are God as the Trinity, then Adam and Eve, and of course the Heavenly Host and all creatures and vegetation  made by God "after it's kind". 

Even what is misrepresented by Scholars and Preachers as "the original greek text" is really just a copy of a copy of a.....

Everything else, including Us, is a combination of what already preexisted.

God creates the original source material, and Man then builds or births stuff with what God designed and created,  by combining stuff to try to create something "new", but even the new is a product of the preexisting.

God  1st-gave colors and THEN man paints.

God  1st-gave musical notes and sound and THEN man makes music.

on and on and on and on............

In understanding that everything is a copy or a combination of what already exists, we come to realize that Only God can create an Original.

And in understanding this fact, We can point out to someone who worships Science as their God, that Science can't create a ROSE from nothing.

This can't be done.  What Science can do, is grow a Rose, or Hybrid a Rose or clone a Rose, but they can't CREATE ONE OUT OF THIN AIR..

God DID simply by saying ..>"Let there BE", and POW, you have a ROSE GARDEN

So true, God is the source of all... How blessed are we that He has chosen to reveal Himself in us..

Be blessed in the revealing, a fellow servant of His, Not me 

Edited April 9, 2020 by Not me