Gentile unsaved enter millennium kingdom in their earthly bodies

[vic66]

Even if they took the mark they still will be allowed to live during the millinenum, this is why Christ will rule with a rod of iron. Those who had part in the first

resurrection don,t need to be ruled with a rod of iron becaused they already have been tried and tested and over came.That is why they are part of the first resurrection .They will have their crowns and white robes to show purity and triump, kings and priest reigning with christ.

Edited June 9, 2020 by vic66

[missmuffet]

4 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Those who follow Satan are as the sand on the seashore. So many of those born during the Mill will follow him. Many also will follow Christ. Which proves that the heart of man can still be wicked. The seed of Adam.

In Christ

Montana Marv

Yes 

[iamlamad]

23 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Those who didn't die at Armageddon, those who didn't take the Mark from all nation's will enter. Most all of these have been idol worshipers. This is why Christ must rule with a rod of iron.

Many of them will follow Satan after the Mill is over.

In Christ

Montana Marv

Question: the title says "unsaved." AFter the rapture of the church, what really is the meaning of this word? Now - today - we think of the unsaved as NOT BORN AGAIN, but it seems that the born again experience may well end when the church age ends. 

If that is true, then we can be sure after the 70th week that every human left alive will KNOW who God is: they will ALL be "believers." But some may not love God? Any ideas? It seems to me that "saved" does not fit then. Allo who survived were "saved."

Edited June 9, 2020 by iamlamad

[Alive]

There is a difference between being born again and 'turning away from the bad guys back to God'.

It's been done in all the years before the Cross and Pentecost.

Remember our God is merciful.

[Montana Marv]

5 hours ago, iamlamad said:

Question: the title says "unsaved." AFter the rapture of the church, what really is the meaning of this word? Now - today - we think of the unsaved as NOT BORN AGAIN, but it seems that the born again experience may well end when the church age ends. 

If that is true, then we can be sure after the 70th week that every human left alive will KNOW who God is: they will ALL be "believers." But some may not love God? Any ideas? It seems to me that "saved" does not fit then. Allo who survived were "saved."

Very true.  The Bride (born again) have the H.S. to guide them and comfort them.  With the Bride gone, so goes the H.S.  Yet after the Rapture there will be saints during the 70th Week.  They will be greatly challenged. Many being put to death.  Fence sitters, Mormons, J.W.'s and other fringe Christian groups.

All who survived were saved through the 70 Week, not being saved as a position in Christ.  Going into the Mill there are primarily three groups of individuals;  Israel who is Saved and comes to the saving knowledge of their Messiah, thus fulling the 70 Sevens.  Those nations who attacked Jerusalem, and those nations who did not attack Israel.  Isa 19:23-25  In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria.  The Assyrians will go to Egypt and the Egyptians to Assyria.  The Egyptians and Assyrians will worship together.  In that day Israel will be the third, along with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing on the earth.  The Lord   Almighty will bless them saying; Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance.

It appears that Christ is working more with Nations than individuals during the Mill.  One must remember that all who come out of the 70th Week alive are still the the seed of Adam.  They and their offspring have the potential to do wrong.

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

[iamlamad]

19 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Very true.  The Bride (born again) have the H.S. to guide them and comfort them.  With the Bride gone, so goes the H.S.  Yet after the Rapture there will be saints during the 70th Week.  They will be greatly challenged. Many being put to death.  Fence sitters, Mormons, J.W.'s and other fringe Christian groups.

All who survived were saved through the 70 Week, not being saved as a position in Christ.  Going into the Mill there are primarily three groups of individuals;  Israel who is Saved and comes to the saving knowledge of their Messiah, thus fulling the 70 Sevens.  Those nations who attacked Jerusalem, and those nations who did not attack Israel.  Isa 19:23-25  In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria.  The Assyrians will go to Egypt and the Egyptians to Assyria.  The Egyptians and Assyrians will worship together.  In that day Israel will be the third, along with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing on the earth.  The Lord   Almighty will bless them saying; Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance.

It appears that Christ is working more with Nations than individuals during the Mill.  One must remember that all who come out of the 70th Week alive are still the the seed of Adam.  They and their offspring have the potential to do wrong.

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

I like your use of the term "Fence Sitters:" I too have used that term. It is one of God's purposes in the days of great tribulation; no fence sitting will be allowed! ALL will be forced to choose: God or the Beast. Isa. 19 is quite a scripture!

I agree: it seems all will still have an unregenerated Adam spirit. 

[vic66]

On 6/9/2020 at 8:26 PM, iamlamad said:

Question: the title says "unsaved." AFter the rapture of the church, what really is the meaning of this word? Now - today - we think of the unsaved as NOT BORN AGAIN, but it seems that the born again experience may well end when the church age ends. 

If that is true, then we can be sure after the 70th week that every human left alive will KNOW who God is: they will ALL be "believers." But some may not love God? Any ideas? It seems to me that "saved" does not fit then. Allo who survived were "saved."

The first resurrection takes in all church age saints, old testament saints, 2 witnesses, 144,000 of the twelve tribes, those who from among the jews who received Christ in the tribulation and were killed for there faith, and all the jews that are left alive at the end of tribulations .

No more salvation plan for any one else after this.

Just natural, earthly men and women granted the privilege to live possible for one thousand year if obedient.

(there is a bit of debate about who john saw who came out of great tribulation the marriage guest Rev7 ) 

⁹ After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

¹⁰ And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

¹¹ And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,

¹² Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

¹³ And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

¹⁴ And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

¹⁵ Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

¹⁶ They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.

¹⁷ For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

 

Edited June 14, 2020 by vic66

[TheBlade]

"Gentile unsaved will enter" Well is it not written "And all dwelling on the earth will worship it, of whom their names have not been written from the founding of the world in the book of life of the Lamb having been slain." So.. where are these "unsaved gentiles"? When Rev says ALL who dwell on the earth will worship it, all is all and thats all all means. To be written in the lambs book means you know Jesus Christ as lord.

So if your one of those that believe you will be here during the great tribulation this verse should bring you peace. You me right now are in the lambs book And you will not find one verse saying anyone is ever blotted out of the Lambs book of life. There are many books.. they almost never get touched on.

"Fence Sitters:"  lol.. like you look at Gods yard "how come God has no fence to sit on?"

 

Edited June 17, 2020 by TheBlade

[vic66]

On 6/18/2020 at 2:02 AM, Roar said:

I will be happy just to be there even if it is to just to clean up after everyone. Come quickly Lord as the earth moans in agony. 

If your there even to clean up there will be lots

Of goodies

[iamlamad]

On 6/8/2020 at 10:29 AM, vic66 said:

There are many prophecy teachers who teach that at christ second coming to the earth all the gentiles who did not help the Jews will be judged and caste into hell, at the beginning of the millinenum .They used the scripture about the separation of the sheep and the goats. They miss understand scripture not rightly dividing word.

Psalm 2 plus the  many other scriptures quoted in this thread proves christ will not destroy all gentiles at his coming but those who come up against Jerusalem and Israel at the battle of Armageddon. There will be some unsaved still living at Christ return who Jesuswill allow to live for up to one thousand year if they are obedient. 

The serparation of The sheep and the goat must be at the end of the world,Great white throne judgement time.

No, it is to decide who gets to enter the millennial kingdom. MANY people will be sheep because they are good people that helped the Jews while the Beast was trying to kill them.

I think ALL will be "believers" in God at that time. How could anyone live through all that and not believe in God?  Of course they will believe in the Son for they will SEE Him.

Edited June 28, 2020 by iamlamad