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33 minutes ago, seeking the lost said:

The time of this resurrection is set at the end of the tribulation and is no movable.

I agree. And the trib ends before wrath begins. And before the end of the week.


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14 hours ago, Diaste said:

I agree. And the trib ends before wrath begins. And before the end of the week.

You might be aware that the wrath has already begun.  According to Romans 1 the wrath of God is being revealed.

God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

How does He do this without taking the Church ot of the world?

You do realize that the first resurrection is about reigning on the earth.  This is not a resurrection to go up.  But that is just according to the text.  What do I know?


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On 6/4/2020 at 8:24 PM, BeauJangles said:
  1. I'll Fly Away

    Some glad morning when this life is o'er
    I'll fly away
    To that home on God's celestial shore
    I'll fly away

    I'll fly away, oh glory, I'll fly away
    When I die, Hallelujah, by and by
    I'll fly away
    Just a few more weary days and then
    I'll fly away

    To that land where joy will never end
    I'll fly away
    I'll fly away, oh glory, I'll fly away
    When I die, Hallelujah, by and by
    I'll fly away

    Oh I'll fly away, oh glory, I'll fly away in the morning
    When I die, Hallelujah, by and by
    I'll fly away

It is good to keep the positive in mind.


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  I'll Fly Away, Oh Glory!

 

  1. I'll Fly Away

    Some bright morning when this life is over
    I'll fly away
    To that home on God's celestial shore
    I'll fly away

    I'll fly away, oh glory
    I'll fly away in the morning
    When I die, Hallelujah by and by
    I'll fly away

    When the shadows of this life have gone
    I'll fly away
    Like a bird from these prison walls I'll fly
    I'll fly away

    I'll fly away, oh glory
    I'll fly away in the morning
    When I die, Hallelujah by and by
    I'll fly away

    Oh, how glad and happy when we meet
    I'll fly away
    No more cold iron shackles on my feet
    I'll fly away

    I'll fly away, oh glory
    I'll fly away in the morning
    When I die, Hallelujah by and by
    I'll fly away

    I'll fly away, oh glory
    I'll fly away in the morning
    When I die, Hallelujah by and by
    I'll fly away

    Just a few more weary days and then
    I'll fly away
    To a land where joys will never end
    I'll fly away

    I'll fly away, oh glory
    I'll fly away in the morning
    When I die, Hallelujah by and by
    I'll fly away

    I'll fly away

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     :amen::heart: :hurrah::heart::amen:

 

5 hours ago, douggg said:

It is good to keep the positive in mind.

You bet it is! This simple hymn and chorus is sung in countless worship services and rightfully so. 


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On 5/3/2020 at 11:13 AM, Rapture and End Times said:

From counting farm animals, we have invented the natural numbers. The need to count faster lead to the computer. But, we don’t need computers to determine when the end will happen. There a way we can calculate it with simple addition. https://raptureandendtimes.com/2020/05/02/rapture-2020-the-countdown-to-the-end/

Maybe it's just me but the simple math in the explanation above doesn't seem right.

If Tiberius ruled from 14- 37 AD and the word came to John 15 years into his rule that would be year 29 not 26. Or am I missing something? 

Also I didn't see the additional time Noah and family were in the Ark. But again, Maybe I didn't read the word problem right.

Even so these date setting things are not just wrong but dangerous. Numerous brothers and sisters were imprisoned and killed in North Korea because of Herold Camping predicting a date, two separate times. The only Christian radio station they were able to hear, and they went out onto hill tops to meet the Lord.

These things discredit the faith and create a rambunctiousness among believers. Something Jesus said not to do, "Do not be soon shaken, the end is not yet." Pretrib has been responsible for numerous miscalls including the Y2K joke. As far as I know the only groups that got rapped up in Y2K were pretrib. Good pastors and teachers were swept up in it even though they had strong people around them telling them it wasn't going to be all that bad.

The boy that cried wolf. When the real time to look up comes, people will simply say, "ya right." Just as Peter said they would.

 

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