At what point should we refuse a mandatory vaccine or mark?

[dad2]

59 minutes ago, branchesofHim said:

This is all temporary, right? Shalom.

Hebrews 11:[13] These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
[14] For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.
[15] And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.
[16] But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

What is temporary, the pandemic? The mark? The end times?

[dad2]

3 hours ago, missmuffet said:

I get the flu vaccination every year. It has been around for a long time and I know what to expect from it. This is a rumor that people will be forced to take the COVID-19 vaccination. People are not forced to take the flu vaccination and many do not. I will not fear because God is in control of everything and I have faith and trust Him. 

Great, so if it is not mandatory, that is easier to refuse. People would probably accuse you of endangering your family and others though.

[branchesofHim]

Just now, dad2 said:

What is temporary, the pandemic? The mark? The end times?

All of it. Blessed be the Lord God Most High in Jesus Christ the Lord through the Holy Ghost!

[dad2]

2 hours ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

They can play genie pig with whoever wants it .     but when some start seeing OOPSY we got a problem there was UN FORSEEN prolonged effects ,     grandma is rolling on the floor convulsing , grandpa developed some kind of odd blood clots ,     with tears in my eyes , i wont say i told anyone so .      THEY IN IT FOR THE MONEY MAN .   this virus is UNKNOWN .  and worse it cometh of men , WHO actually depsise GOD and what is HOLY . 

Their solution , there hope ,  IS NOT MY HOPE .    GOD IS IN CONTROL ,  HE ALONE WILL BE MY HOPE . 

Potential dangers to a vaccine. Like the swine flu years ago. Could happen.

[dad2]

2 hours ago, other one said:

Jesus told us that no one could snatch us from the Father's hand....    so we are not going to be fooled, tricked or accidentally worship the beast or take it's mark.....     

But aside that there are some things that we just should not do anyway that has nothing to do with the beast.....     

The beast that is referring to this time period comes from the bottomless pit....    don't think he is going to sneak up on us for he will be doing miracles and calling fire down from heaven...

The place it mentions that the beast ascended from the pit is in Rev 11 where it talks of the two witnesses being raised from the dead at the very very very end. The beast was around for many years before this. Will we see him rise from a pit? Could we say of the same guy way back in the first part of the seven years, that he came from the pit also? How about before the guy came to power? I am not sure we should take any mark they dish out until wee see some bottomless pit open ip and a man float out of it?

[dad2]

7 minutes ago, branchesofHim said:

All of it. Blessed be the Lord God Most High in Jesus Christ the Lord through the Holy Ghost!

Yes it is all temporary. However, refusing something that is mandated by law seems to be a serious choice.

[branchesofHim]

3 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Yes it is all temporary. However, refusing something that is mandated by law seems to be a serious choice.

Didn't the Roman Law command that all who wouldn't bow the knee and confess Ceasar as Lord should die?  

[dad2]

39 minutes ago, branchesofHim said:

Didn't the Roman Law command that all who wouldn't bow the knee and confess Ceasar as Lord should die?  

The question is whether taking a vaccine is the same as bowing the knee to the devil.

[other one]

1 hour ago, dad2 said:

The place it mentions that the beast ascended from the pit is in Rev 11 where it talks of the two witnesses being raised from the dead at the very very very end. The beast was around for many years before this. Will we see him rise from a pit? Could we say of the same guy way back in the first part of the seven years, that he came from the pit also? How about before the guy came to power? I am not sure we should take any mark they dish out until wee see some bottomless pit open ip and a man float out of it?

It will be a miserable life living in fear of a mark that we will know what it is when it comes. And what things will we miss out on if we  refuse things because they might be the mark.....  once we go to a cashless society a simple purple smiley face could be used for the mark.

[leah777]

46 minutes ago, dad2 said:

The question is whether taking a vaccine is the same as bowing the knee to the devil.

why would it be the same? have you not had an vaccines ever?

The choice to take or refuse the mark of the beast is not going to be hidden. It will be a clear decision, knowing the consequences clearly, before making that decision. God wont let anyone be deceived into taking it, like Eve was deceived.