Name That King! Revealing the Beast.

[DeighAnn]

4 hours ago, The Light said:

Isaiah 14

¹⁶ They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

When would you say THIS TAKES PLACE??
Isaiah 14:7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.

 

Isaiah 14:8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.

Isaiah 14:9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

Isaiah 14:10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

Isaiah 14:11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.  

Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Isaiah 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Isaiah 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Isaiah 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

Isaiah 14:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

Isaiah 14:18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

Isaiah 14:19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

Yes.  SATAN will have no more power.  Satan will be bound.  Satans evil spirit will not even be allowed to go out.  He will not have any power over anyone for the Lords Day.  He will be just as a man, no longer a supernatural being.  YES, is this the man?

Isaiah 14:20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

Isaiah 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

Isaiah 14:22 For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD.

Isaiah 14:23 I will also make it a possession for the bittern, and pools of water: and I will sweep it with the besom of destruction, saith the LORD of hosts.

Isaiah 14:24 The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:

Isaiah 14:25 That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.

Isaiah 14:26 This is the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth: and this is the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations.

Isaiah 14:27 For the LORD of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul it? and his hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back?

[DeighAnn]

4 hours ago, luigi said:

Hi DeighAnn, I hope you don't mind my interjecting here on just one point? When the Lord does return, while it will be for the wrath the Lord will have on the faithless at the conclusion of the beast's reign, it will also be for the rewarding unto the prophets and saints, and all who fear his name (Revelation 11:18). There is a millennium reign in which the Lords saints will be enlightened, while the world's masses will be in total darkness (Isaiah 60:1-2). I also, however, am in agreement with you that Nimrod is of irrelevance during these end times.

Revelation 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Isaiah 60:1 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee. 2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.

Hello Luigi,  I don't mind you interjecting here at all.  Not anywhere for that matter.  The children of God must be sealed.  

I do agree the Lords return will be a time of reward as we will get to reign with Christ as priests for the 1000 years.  

BUT

what do PRIESTS do? 

They teach.  They bring the lost to God.  They serve.  God doesn't want any of His children to perish.  I am not saying the millennium will give those who "chose poorly on purpose" another chance but those who were deceived because of having an ignorant preacher or teacher or had an outright false teacher or never heard GODS TRUTH before, they deserve to be saved.  The LIGHT is going to be brought to them without any dark interruptions.  

WHEN you continue on in Isaiah you will see that 

Isaiah 60:1 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee.

Isaiah 60:2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.

The Lords Day will be a day in which teaching and worship of the Lord will be the order of the day.  ONLY GODS TRUTH will be taught.  There will be no guessing if this or that is correct or not Satan will be bound.  I love the last chapters of Ezekiel where the millennial temple is spoken of.  Really good reading.  Then again, what part isn't?

(And to save an explanation for someone else who might not know,  I know, looks like "flesh and blood" sacrifice happening but we all know that no blood spilt could ever again compare with the infinite value of the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ and God doesn't want sacrifice but wants our love but that is how it is explained so we can understand what God is looking for from us "spiritually" through a  "physical" method we can understand here in flesh bodies)

Isaiah 60:3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.

Isaiah 60:4 Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side.

Isaiah 60:5 Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee.

Isaiah 60:6 The multitude of camels shall cover thee, the dromedaries of Midian and Ephah; all they from Sheba shall come: they shall bring gold and incense; and they shall shew forth the praises of the LORD.

Isaiah 60:7 All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory.

Isaiah 60:8 Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?

Isaiah 60:9 Surely the isles shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring thy sons from far, their silver and their gold with them, unto the name of the LORD thy God, and to the Holy One of Israel, because he hath glorified thee.

Isaiah 60:10 And the sons of strangers shall build up thy walls, and their kings shall minister unto thee: for in my wrath I smote thee, but in my favour have I had mercy on thee.

Isaiah 60:11 Therefore thy gates shall be open continually; they shall not be shut day nor night; that men may bring unto thee the forces of the Gentiles, and that their kings may be brought.

Isaiah 60:12 For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted.

Isaiah 60:13 The glory of Lebanon shall come unto thee, the fir tree, the pine tree, and the box together, to beautify the place of my sanctuary; and I will make the place of my feet glorious.

Isaiah 60:14 The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet; and they shall call thee; The city of the LORD, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.

Isaiah 60:15 Whereas thou has been forsaken and hated, so that no man went through thee, I will make thee an eternal excellency, a joy of many generations.

Isaiah 60:16 Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

Isaiah 60:17 For brass I will bring gold, and for iron I will bring silver, and for wood brass, and for stones iron: I will also make thy officers peace, and thine exactors righteousness.

Isaiah 60:18 Violence shall no more be heard in thy land, wasting nor destruction within thy borders; but thou shalt call thy walls Salvation, and thy gates Praise.

Isaiah 60:19 The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the LORD shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory.

Isaiah 60:20 Thy sun shall no more go down; neither shall thy moon withdraw itself: for the LORD shall be thine everlasting light, and the days of thy mourning shall be ended.

Isaiah 60:21 Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified.

Isaiah 60:22 A little one shall become a thousand, and a small one a strong nation: I the LORD will hasten it in his time.

 

[The Light]

39 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

When would you say THIS TAKES PLACE??
Isaiah 14:7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.

 

The earth is at rest when the wrath of God is over. Jesus has returned and set up his kingdom on earth.

 

39 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

Isaiah 14:8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.

The fir trees and the cedars of Lebanon rejoice when Nimrod is laid down.

Jer 10

³ For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

⁴ They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

⁵ They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.

39 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

As I have explained before, the KJV translators grabbed a Latin word, lucifer, from the Latin Vulgate that they were translation from. They should have translated to English with the words "morning star" or "bringing light". Instead they capitalized Lucifer creating a "proper noun" when there was no such thing. Now if you understood the ancient religion of Babylon, that spread all over the world in different forms, you would know that at his death Nimrod was claimed to be the sun. He is the morning star, bringing light, the day star. That's what the worship of the sun is all about.

39 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.  

This verse is likely what caused the KJV translators to create lucifer as a proper noun instead of just translating to English morning star bringing light.

We have Satan cast out of heaven here.

Rev 12

⁷ And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

⁸ And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

⁹ And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

 

39 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Isaiah 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Isaiah 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Isaiah 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

Isaiah 14:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

Isaiah 14:18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

Isaiah 14:19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

Yes.  SATAN will have no more power.  Satan will be bound.  Satans evil spirit will not even be allowed to go out.  He will not have any power over anyone for the Lords Day.  He will be just as a man, no longer a supernatural being.  YES, is this the man?

 

Problem is Satan is cast in the abyss which is not hell, and he is not a man. So this cannot be Satan

39 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

 

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[The Light]

1 hour ago, DeighAnn said:

This revelation 5?

Revelation 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.

Revelation 5:2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?

Revelation 5:3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.

Revelation 5:4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.

Revelation 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

Revelation 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

Revelation 5:7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

Revelation 5:8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

Revelation 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

Revelation 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Revelation 5:11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

Revelation 5:12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

Revelation 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

Revelation 5:14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

Yes, there are billions of people who have died and gone to paradise.  ONLY 2 out of all those billions who did not SEE DEATH.  THEY. the two will be RETURNING TO THE EARTH TO BE KILLED THOUGH. 

How WILL THAT BE HAPPENING WITH "THE CHURCH" AS every man is appointed death and judgment.

(except that remnant bunch who stand, overcome and endure to the end and are alive and remain when Christ returns)

 

I was thinking that you might notice the Church already in heaven. Which is before the seals are opened, which is before the 70th week, which is before the time of Jacobs trouble.

Revelation 5:8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

Revelation 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

Revelation 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

[DeighAnn]

1 hour ago, The Light said:

As I have explained before, the KJV translators grabbed a Latin word, lucifer, from the Latin Vulgate that they were translation from. They should have translated to English with the words "morning star" or "bringing light". Instead they capitalized Lucifer creating a "proper noun" when there was no such thing. Now if you understood the ancient religion of Babylon, that spread all over the world in different forms, you would know that at his death Nimrod was claimed to be the sun. He is the morning star, bringing light, the day star. That's what the worship of the sun is all about.

No matter what he was called, he doesn't get to live twice.  No matter if Lucifer what ever.  I do understand FALSE RELIGION.  They all go against the TRUTH of the WORD OF GOD. 

Where does GODS WORD say Nimrod was "the morning star"?
 

2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

Do you understand "types" FROM THE PAST set forth as examples for the future?  Nimrod was a "type" to give us an example of things to come.  Flesh and blood people don't get to live and die twice.  You have even quoted that yourself.  What possesses you to still bring this forth?


So, CONTEXT is our key.

Isaiah 14:1 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.
Well this is future, correct?

Isaiah 14:2 And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.
This also, correct?

Isaiah 14:3 And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,

Isaiah 14:4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!

Isaiah 14:5 The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.

Isaiah 14:6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.

Isaiah 14:7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.
 

1 hour ago, The Light said:

The earth is at rest when the wrath of God is over. Jesus has returned and set up his kingdom on earth.

NEXT, this is where I get it is SATAN who will be cast into the bottomless pit, NOT Nimrod.  Please give me scripture LIKE THIS that WOULD negate this WHILE PUTTING forth what you are teaching.  Nothing obscure but specific like this.  

The who, from where,  with what,  does what,  with the who.

Revelation 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

Revelation 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Isaiah 14:8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.
THIS FELLER is SATAN.  When Christ lays him down, he stays down until he is loosed.

Isaiah 14:9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

Isaiah 14:10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?
DID anyone say this to Nimrod?  Does the Word tell us this will be said to Nimrod?

Isaiah 14:11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Luke 10:18 And He (JESUS) said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.  
Where do we find Nimrod falling from heaven?

Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Ezekiel 28:11 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

Ezekiel 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

Ezekiel 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

Ezekiel 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Ezekiel 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

Ezekiel 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

Ezekiel 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

Satan sentenced to death

Ezekiel 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

 

Isaiah 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Isaiah 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
Once again, I have shown Satan getting sent to the pit, Please show me where Nimrod is.

Isaiah 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

Isaiah 14:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

Isaiah 14:18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.
ALL THE KINGS OF THE NATIONS, EVEN ALL OF THEM.  How could this be true if Nimrod is in the pit?

Isaiah 14:19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

Isaiah 14:20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

Isaiah 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

Isaiah 14:22 For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD.

Isaiah 14:23 I will also make it a possession for the bittern, and pools of water: and I will sweep it with the besom of destruction, saith the LORD of hosts.

Isaiah 14:24 The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:

Isaiah 14:25 That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.

804 Ashshuwr
Asshur, Assyria
proper name, of a people and territory
step, going

people of Asshur
 

Isaiah 14:26 This is the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth: and this is the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations.

Isaiah 14:27 For the LORD of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul it? and his hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back?

.

[DeighAnn]

2 hours ago, The Light said:

I was thinking that you might notice the Church already in heaven. Which is before the seals are opened, which is before the 70th week, which is before the time of Jacobs trouble.

I was hoping you might notice WHY they can't be.  These are the churches that that doctrine teaches are to be pre trib rapped.   I'll for a moment let go of the "dividing" of what God has put together,  I will let go of how God tells we will  be tested,  I'll let go of all the rest of the things the Word tells us that are in direct conflict with it.  BUT it seems to me THESE need the testing/tribulation if there is to be any hope at all.  If  they show up in heaven like this, (and that is what a pre trib rap would call for)  and God is a consuming fire, I don't see it going very well for them. 
 

Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.

Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate.

(Those holding the doctrine WHICH THING HE HATES are a part of the pre trib rapped church?   Do they even know God?)

Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

This, another of the  "churches" chosen to  pre trib rap to heaven? It really DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THEY KNOW GOD AT ALL.  

for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 

These are who is supposed to be Pre trib rapped?  Does that really make any sense at all? I am telling you, I would be scared and I'm not kidding. 
 

Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 

Do you see?  Do you see why THE CHURCH can not be "pre tribbed" ANYTHING?  They would all but disappear in the PRESENCE OF THE LORD.  They have much to learn.  They aren't even close to being PRIESTS OF GOD.  They don't have a clue as to what GODS TRUTH IS.  

But it helps explain "the GREAT FALLING AWAY" doesn't it??  We should be thanking God we are not "judged" as a unit and that every man will stand on his own two feet.  


 

As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

[luigi]

11 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

Hello Luigi,  I don't mind you interjecting here at all.  Not anywhere for that matter.  The children of God must be sealed.  

I do agree the Lords return will be a time of reward as we will get to reign with Christ as priests for the 1000 years.  

BUT

what do PRIESTS do? 

They teach.  They bring the lost to God.  They serve.  God doesn't want any of His children to perish.  I am not saying the millennium will give those who "chose poorly on purpose" another chance but those who were deceived because of having an ignorant preacher or teacher or had an outright false teacher or never heard GODS TRUTH before, they deserve to be saved.  The LIGHT is going to be brought to them without any dark interruptions.  

WHEN you continue on in Isaiah you will see that 

Isaiah 60:1 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee.

Isaiah 60:2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.

The Lords Day will be a day in which teaching and worship of the Lord will be the order of the day.  ONLY GODS TRUTH will be taught.  There will be no guessing if this or that is correct or not Satan will be bound.  I love the last chapters of Ezekiel where the millennial temple is spoken of.  Really good reading.  Then again, what part isn't?

(And to save an explanation for someone else who might not know,  I know, looks like "flesh and blood" sacrifice happening but we all know that no blood spilt could ever again compare with the infinite value of the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ and God doesn't want sacrifice but wants our love but that is how it is explained so we can understand what God is looking for from us "spiritually" through a  "physical" method we can understand here in flesh bodies)

Isaiah 60:3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.

Isaiah 60:4 Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side.

Isaiah 60:5 Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee.

Isaiah 60:6 The multitude of camels shall cover thee, the dromedaries of Midian and Ephah; all they from Sheba shall come: they shall bring gold and incense; and they shall shew forth the praises of the LORD.

Isaiah 60:7 All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory.

Isaiah 60:8 Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?

Isaiah 60:9 Surely the isles shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring thy sons from far, their silver and their gold with them, unto the name of the LORD thy God, and to the Holy One of Israel, because he hath glorified thee.

Isaiah 60:10 And the sons of strangers shall build up thy walls, and their kings shall minister unto thee: for in my wrath I smote thee, but in my favour have I had mercy on thee.

Isaiah 60:11 Therefore thy gates shall be open continually; they shall not be shut day nor night; that men may bring unto thee the forces of the Gentiles, and that their kings may be brought.

Isaiah 60:12 For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted.

Isaiah 60:13 The glory of Lebanon shall come unto thee, the fir tree, the pine tree, and the box together, to beautify the place of my sanctuary; and I will make the place of my feet glorious.

Isaiah 60:14 The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet; and they shall call thee; The city of the LORD, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.

Isaiah 60:15 Whereas thou has been forsaken and hated, so that no man went through thee, I will make thee an eternal excellency, a joy of many generations.

Isaiah 60:16 Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

Isaiah 60:17 For brass I will bring gold, and for iron I will bring silver, and for wood brass, and for stones iron: I will also make thy officers peace, and thine exactors righteousness.

Isaiah 60:18 Violence shall no more be heard in thy land, wasting nor destruction within thy borders; but thou shalt call thy walls Salvation, and thy gates Praise.

Isaiah 60:19 The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the LORD shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory.

Isaiah 60:20 Thy sun shall no more go down; neither shall thy moon withdraw itself: for the LORD shall be thine everlasting light, and the days of thy mourning shall be ended.

Isaiah 60:21 Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified.

Isaiah 60:22 A little one shall become a thousand, and a small one a strong nation: I the LORD will hasten it in his time.

 

Good morning DeighAnn, Yes, we will be priests of the Lord, but it will be a far different picture than what priests are today to the masses. When the Lord returns it will be like a thief in the night, at which time he will remove His further enlightening of the masses who worship the beast, thus putting them into darkness. The saints on the other hand who will not have loved the beasts system, will then be greatly illumined (Isaiah 60:1-2), and will no longer teach their brothers and sisters about the Lord, as we will all know the Lord (Jeremiah 31:34). Those in darkness, though, without further direct illumination from the Lord, will then go to the greatly illumined saints for guidance as to what their course of actions should be (Isaiah 2:2-3), whereupon those in darkness shall then dispose of their military armaments, and learn war no more (Isaiah 2:4). 

 Jeremiah 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Isaiah 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. 3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. 4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

[Last Daze]

12 hours ago, The Light said:

So who do you believe is in the abyss?

I don't think the beast is any longer in the abyss.  I think he was released circa 1900.

I'm still of this persuasion:

 

[The Light]

51 minutes ago, Last Daze said:

I don't think the beast is any longer in the abyss.  I think he was released circa 1900.

I'm still of this persuasion:

 

Why do you think he was released circa 1900?

Where did these evil spirits come from. Dead people?

 

 

[Last Daze]

46 minutes ago, The Light said:

Why do you think he was released circa 1900?

Because around then significant changes began to take place; the seeds of globalism were sown, advancements in electricity / electronics, "UFO" activity, etc.

Knowledge over the last century or so has increased dramatically and it's not because humans all of a sudden became much more intelligent.  I attribute it to the beast (and his entourage) teaching men things.

1 hour ago, The Light said:

Where did these evil spirits come from. Dead people?

No.  They were created spirit beings that became evil, much like Satan.