I dont think Im saved.

[Wesley L]

On 8/11/2020 at 10:28 PM, Figure of eighty said:

Ive been reading how people who get saved feel an instant change or their desire for sin is diminished. 

Also they grow and change ... Meanwhile its always stop and go with me. Something or someone enters my life and it shakes things up or My silent/one sided relationship with God gets too painfully quiet to continue and I just stop. 

Idk I never experienced those chsnges others talked about. Maybe Im a "normal" christian or not one at all. 

I goy baptized and filled with his spirit( well my brother who was a minister helped me) so idk if I need the Holy Spirit or if I still have it. 

Idk what to do. 

I feel like having a pastor or someone fill my with Gods spirit. That way maybe i wont struggle so much. 

Idk 

Hi @Figure of eighty,

The feeling of instant change of their desires.
I don't think it is at the same pace for everyone. So don't mainly go comparing yourself to other christians. Test yourself with God's words, that is our standard, not other christians.

I never experienced those chsnges others talked about.
Have you ever tried / persevere trying to choose Jesus? In our daily life, we have many oppertunities to sin, to choose against Jesus. Have you tried and persevered in choosing to follow His words? If you do, meaning you believe His words are true, you will "experience" those changes.

I goy baptized and filled with his spirit, idk if I need the Holy Spirit or if I still have it.
Know God's words. Baptism won't save you. Faith in Jesus Christ does, in repentance and true faith.
When you put your faith in Jesus Christ, you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Given by God Himself.
Also note what Jesus said about why He came. He did not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. (Luke 5:32)
 

I feel like having a pastor or someone fill my with Gods spirit.
It's God to give, not by a pastor.

Faith comes from hearing the word of Christ. Jesus Christ is the Word which became flesh. He is the truth. Believing Jesus means believing His words, ALL His words. How can you have faith in someone you don't know so well? Please read His words. Know Him, know His will for you. Praying for you!

 

Edited August 12, 2020 by Wesley L

[R. Hartono]

On 8/12/2020 at 3:28 AM, Figure of eighty said:

Ive been reading how people who get saved feel an instant change or their desire for sin is diminished. 

Also they grow and change ... Meanwhile its always stop and go with me. Something or someone enters my life and it shakes things up or My silent/one sided relationship with God gets too painfully quiet to continue and I just stop. 

 

Idk I never experienced those chsnges others talked about. Maybe Im a "normal" christian or not one at all. 

 

 

I goy baptized and filled with his spirit( well my brother who was a minister helped me) so idk if I need the Holy Spirit or if I still have it. 

 

Idk what to do. 

 

I feel like having a pastor or someone fill my with Gods spirit. That way maybe i wont struggle so much. 

 

Idk 

Do you think God is asking you too much ?

What does God ever ask from you but obedience ?

God never asked for money like those churches who abuse tithe.

Edited August 13, 2020 by R. Hartono

[Fidei Defensor]

Jesus will never let go of you: 

“27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.
29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.
30 I and the Father are one." - (John 10:27-30)

[David1701]

On 8/12/2020 at 2:48 PM, David1701 said:

The quote from Romans 7 is about a Christian trying to live by law-keeping - and finding that it doesn't work.

Romans 8 shows the way to what should be the normal Christian experience.

Romans 8:1-4 (VW)

1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
2 For the Law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the Law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh; and on account of sin, He condemned sin in the flesh,
4 that the righteous requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

The righteous requirement (singular) of the Law is love.

Note to the poster (Fidei Defensor) who gave me an "Oy Vey" for this: where is your answer, or don't you have one?