Suicide and still go to heaven?

[HAZARD]

Suicide is the Devils solution.

2 Cor. 7:10, For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

I believe suicide is self murder. Once dead, one cannot repent of it.

 

[johnthebaptist]

19 hours ago, Helpmd said:

Is there a way for someone to take their own life and still go to heaven? Yes it’s a permanent solution to a temporary problem but some problems are life long and in many cases it is too late as the hole someone dig themselves in is too deep. Only a cruel God would advise someone to permanently suffer.

But then the Lord can dig us out of any hole.

[BeauJangles]

3 hours ago, HAZARD said:

Suicide is the Devils solution.

2 Cor. 7:10, For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

I believe suicide is self murder. Once dead, one cannot repent of it.

Yes, it is. I have absolutely no dispute about this whatsoever. 

[WowLookaDuck]

I can't get away from the fact that suicide seems like a logical decision to me. Life is tiring and often painful. It makes sense to me to want to end that. If it somehow didn't hurt loved ones or someone had no loved ones then I don't think I'd be able to argue against it. 

[Willa]

Only God knows whether the decision to let God end their lives was a selfish motive or an unselfish one.  Some people know that their health is getting progressively worse and there is no earthly solution, so they stop taking their medications and leave it in God's hands.  They don't want to be a burden to their families or possibly even do harm to them.  They commit their lives to God.  Even Jesus refused the sop.    

Other people commit suicide to escape, thinking it is the end to their problems; satan has deceived them so they blow their heads off with a shot gun.  God knows their motives and the reason.  I have prayed and witnessed to some of those and grieved for them.  

[Sister_in_Christ]

I would NEVER take that chance of being separated from God forever. Even if 5 million Christian scholars told me that I would go to heaven, I would NOT take that chance.  I guess the question is, can you purposefully break a commandment, ask for forgiveness for the sin that you are about to commit and still go to heaven. 

Or if you do something under the influence of mental illness or substance are you held accountable for it?  
These are all too complicated. 

So do not take this chance. Nobody's opinion on this matters because none of us can say with 100% certainty that a person that commits suicide goes to heaven.

So it is more prudent for the person contemplating it to assume that if they went ahead with it, that they would permanently be separating themself from the Lord God for eternity.  Weigh that out before murdering yourself and trying to control when your last day is.  

Romans 12:21 " Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good."   He alone should determine our coming into the world and our leaving of this world.  None of us knows what tomorrow brings.  Eternity is FOREVER... we cannot comprehend. 

But even the most painful life here on earth is a very finite limited time compared the perfection of heaven for eternity.  Heaven is what makes ALL suffering worth it.  Suffer well and be an encouragement for those suffering less than you are.  End the race well my brothers and sisters in the faith !!  Allow God alone to determine when your last day on earth is.

Hebrews 12: 1-3 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of faith. For the joy set before him he endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.  Consider him who endured such opposition from sinners, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.

Edited September 5, 2020 by Sister_in_Christ

[Sister_in_Christ]

On 9/3/2020 at 1:28 AM, Helpmd said:

Is there a way for someone to take their own life and still go to heaven? Yes it’s a permanent solution to a temporary problem but some problems are life long and in many cases it is too late as the hole someone dig themselves in is too deep. Only a cruel God would advise someone to permanently suffer.

Psalm 40: 1-3

  "I waited patiently for the Lord;
And He inclined to me,
And heard my cry.
 He also brought me up out of a horrible pit,
Out of the miry clay,
And set my feet upon a rock,
And established my steps.
 He has put a new song in my mouth—
Praise to our God;
Many will see it and fear,
And will trust in the Lord."

[enoob57]

On 9/3/2020 at 12:28 AM, Helpmd said:

Is there a way for someone to take their own life and still go to heaven? Yes it’s a permanent solution to a temporary problem but some problems are life long and in many cases it is too late as the hole someone dig themselves in is too deep. Only a cruel God would advise someone to permanently suffer.

God had nothing to do with this corruption that is found here ... we as man chose it! That being said God did curse this world because of that choice but we see Him in Christ bear that curse upon Himself

Gal 3:13

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
KJV

Knowing redemption is not of the flesh but of the s/Spirit

John 3:6

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
KJV

1 Cor 5:5

5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
KJV
 

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Only a cruel God would advise someone to permanently suffer.

This life in flesh is not permanent and when placed with that which there is of no end 'Life Eternal' I would say should not even be a consideration.... 

[sweetycakes]

I would never advise any person to commit suicide.  Like others have said, we just don't know.
But it's not worth taking the risk.
What about the scripture that says "God will destroy those who destroy his temple."?  1 Corinthians 3:17 (some translations have 'defile', not 'destroy'...but still..

https://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/3-17.htm

[Jayne]

3 hours ago, sweetycakes said:

What about the scripture that says "God will destroy those who destroy his temple."?  1 Corinthians 3:17 (some translations have 'defile', not 'destroy'...but still..

https://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/3-17.htm

You have confused 1 Corinthians 3:17 with 1 Corinthians 6:19.

1 Corinthians is referencing the church.  The whole chapter is about divisions in the church based on what mortal man they followed.  Paul claims to have laid the foundation of Jesus Christ as the foundation of this church in Corinth when he started it.  He says "you yourselves" - plural.  The church.  Divisions destroy churches.  False teaching destroys churches.  This is what he is speaking of.

1 Corinthians 6:19 is talking about the individual's personal body as the temple of the Holy Spirit.  But he is not talking about suicide.  He is talking, in verses 12-20, about the grievousness of sexual sin.

Suicide is horrid and leaves so much damage behind.  But these two passage are not referencing suicide.