Does anyone have a verse that says we goto Heaven?

[Completed Israelite]

27 minutes ago, glff said:

There will be no soul sleep after we die and are present with the Lord;

Parallel verse to psalms when David said...If I make my bed in Sheol He will be with me. 

[Your closest friendnt]

10 hours ago, Completed Israelite said:

The understanding I gained was in a search for truth about death, using Only scriptures without any previous indoctrination...The big part that's throwing people off is they believe dying is simply leaving the Body, basically just jumping from one life to the next...And that's not real death according to the Bible...The Bible is clear from the beginning on what man is...People say "we have a soul" the Bible said Man IS a Soul. And that soul is made living by the Spirit of Life that Belongs to God.  And man has to die, and that's not talking about flesh.

And when something dies that spirit of life returns to the one who gave it-Ecclisasties 

Then the souls of the dead get stored (we could say)  where they belong, wether thats abrahams bosom or the pit. (Both in Sheol)

 

And they are truly dead, but the Rightoues won't even taste death, it won't have any sting, Isaiah says they get rest, peace, state of repose...wich aligns with Lazor "Being comforted" in Abrahams Bosom, as you see in Luke. And rich man being in torment aligns with what Solomon said in Ecclisasties about the wicked have madness in Thier heart during life and after they goto the dead. 

This is actually one of the biggest points of the Good News(Gospel) is because thru Messiah we won't be forever held captive in Sheol, we know he's returning, and that When He does all of Israel(His ppl)will be resurrected- Ezekiel

And like I was saying Messiah raising from the dead wasn't the big deal, as he raised many other from the dead, but they died again...The amazing thing was he was Raised with a ETERNAL BODY! Proving we can truly live Forever. So we know it WILL truly happen to us on His return. 

The only book I read on this was the Bible. 

And as it says in James God never changes not even the shadow of a change, as he had a plan from the beginning for His ppl to live eternally,,,"lest they eat from the tree of life and Live forever" 

Properly understanding  death will help people properly understand the great Gift of Eternal life. 

Halleluyah. 

I think it's John 3,13 says no man hath ascended into the heavens...acts said David has not ascended...

And we never really do, when HE returns we will be alive on This earth for 1000 years, truly alive again, just like now but wayyy better. And then after the 1000 years Then we enter the Kingdom with floors of see thru gold, and no death etc., And that's on The New Earth. Until then we will be greatly prvledged to enter into the Shalom(peace) of Abrahams Bosom.

 

What u mentioned about born from above goes back to gan eden...And when Eve was called "The mother of all living"

But it's appointed for all men to die once, and dying is going to Sheol. Not leaving the flesh and jumping from one life into another.

No dead people go into "Heaven" that's why no verses not even one says that. 

 

 

 

Mathew 22:

29 Jesus replied, 

“You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. 31 But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you, 32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’?

 He is not the God of the dead but of the living.”

33 When the crowds heard this, they were astonished at his teaching.

        ***********

John 11:25

King James Version
And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

Darby Bible Translation
and every one who lives and believes on me shall never die. Believest thou this?

World English Bible
Whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?"

Edited December 1, 2020 by Your closest friendnt

[Your closest friendnt]

11 hours ago, Completed Israelite said:

The understanding I gained was in a search for truth about death, using Only scriptures without any previous indoctrination...The big part that's throwing people off is they believe dying is simply leaving the Body, basically just jumping from one life to the next...And that's not real death according to the Bible...The Bible is clear from the beginning on what man is...People say "we have a soul" the Bible said Man IS a Soul. And that soul is made living by the Spirit of Life that Belongs to God.  And man has to die, and that's not talking about flesh.

And when something dies that spirit of life returns to the one who gave it-Ecclisasties 

Then the souls of the dead get stored (we could say)  where they belong, wether thats abrahams bosom or the pit. (Both in Sheol)

 

And they are truly dead, but the Rightoues won't even taste death, it won't have any sting, Isaiah says they get rest, peace, state of repose...wich aligns with Lazor "Being comforted" in Abrahams Bosom, as you see in Luke. And rich man being in torment aligns with what Solomon said in Ecclisasties about the wicked have madness in Thier heart during life and after they goto the dead. 

This is actually one of the biggest points of the Good News(Gospel) is because thru Messiah we won't be forever held captive in Sheol, we know he's returning, and that When He does all of Israel(His ppl)will be resurrected- Ezekiel

And like I was saying Messiah raising from the dead wasn't the big deal, as he raised many other from the dead, but they died again...The amazing thing was he was Raised with a ETERNAL BODY! Proving we can truly live Forever. So we know it WILL truly happen to us on His return. 

The only book I read on this was the Bible. 

And as it says in James God never changes not even the shadow of a change, as he had a plan from the beginning for His ppl to live eternally,,,"lest they eat from the tree of life and Live forever" 

Properly understanding  death will help people properly understand the great Gift of Eternal life. 

Halleluyah. 

I think it's John 3,13 says no man hath ascended into the heavens...acts said David has not ascended...

And we never really do, when HE returns we will be alive on This earth for 1000 years, truly alive again, just like now but wayyy better. And then after the 1000 years Then we enter the Kingdom with floors of see thru gold, and no death etc., And that's on The New Earth. Until then we will be greatly prvledged to enter into the Shalom(peace) of Abrahams Bosom.

 

What u mentioned about born from above goes back to gan eden...And when Eve was called "The mother of all living"

But it's appointed for all men to die once, and dying is going to Sheol. Not leaving the flesh and jumping from one life into another.

No dead people go into "Heaven" that's why no verses not even one says that. 

 

 

 

29 Jesus replied, 

“You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 

   * 1 John 5:1 *

1 Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been begotten by God; and everyone who loves Him Who begat also loves him who has been begotten by Him.

   * Mathew 22: *

29 Jesus replied, 

“You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 

30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. 31 But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you, 

32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’?

* "He is not the God of the dead but of the living.”

33 When the crowds heard this, they were astonished at his teaching.

 

[Your closest friendnt]

14 hours ago, Completed Israelite said:

The understanding I gained was in a search for truth about death, using Only scriptures without any previous indoctrination...The big part that's throwing people off is they believe dying is simply leaving the Body, basically just jumping from one life to the next...And that's not real death according to the Bible...The Bible is clear from the beginning on what man is...People say "we have a soul" the Bible said Man IS a Soul. And that soul is made living by the Spirit of Life that Belongs to God.  And man has to die, and that's not talking about flesh.

And when something dies that spirit of life returns to the one who gave it-Ecclisasties 

Then the souls of the dead get stored (we could say)  where they belong, wether thats abrahams bosom or the pit. (Both in Sheol)

 

And they are truly dead, but the Rightoues won't even taste death, it won't have any sting, Isaiah says they get rest, peace, state of repose...wich aligns with Lazor "Being comforted" in Abrahams Bosom, as you see in Luke. And rich man being in torment aligns with what Solomon said in Ecclisasties about the wicked have madness in Thier heart during life and after they goto the dead. 

This is actually one of the biggest points of the Good News(Gospel) is because thru Messiah we won't be forever held captive in Sheol, we know he's returning, and that When He does all of Israel(His ppl)will be resurrected- Ezekiel

And like I was saying Messiah raising from the dead wasn't the big deal, as he raised many other from the dead, but they died again...The amazing thing was he was Raised with a ETERNAL BODY! Proving we can truly live Forever. So we know it WILL truly happen to us on His return. 

The only book I read on this was the Bible. 

And as it says in James God never changes not even the shadow of a change, as he had a plan from the beginning for His ppl to live eternally,,,"lest they eat from the tree of life and Live forever" 

Properly understanding  death will help people properly understand the great Gift of Eternal life. 

Halleluyah. 

I think it's John 3,13 says no man hath ascended into the heavens...acts said David has not ascended...

And we never really do, when HE returns we will be alive on This earth for 1000 years, truly alive again, just like now but wayyy better. And then after the 1000 years Then we enter the Kingdom with floors of see thru gold, and no death etc., And that's on The New Earth. Until then we will be greatly prvledged to enter into the Shalom(peace) of Abrahams Bosom.

 

What u mentioned about born from above goes back to gan eden...And when Eve was called "The mother of all living"

But it's appointed for all men to die once, and dying is going to Sheol. Not leaving the flesh and jumping from one life into another.

No dead people go into "Heaven" that's why no verses not even one says that. 

 

 

 

29 Jesus replied, 

“You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 

   * 1 John 5:1 *

1 Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been begotten by God; and everyone who loves Him Who begat also loves him who has been begotten by Him.

   * Mathew 22: *

29 Jesus replied, 

“You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 

30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. 31 But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you, 

32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’?

* "He is not the God of the dead but of the living.”

33 When the crowds heard this, they were astonished at his teaching.

   * John 14:18,19 *

 ¹⁸ I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.

¹⁹ Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 

[brotherdon]

⁴² And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

⁴³ And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise. LUKE 23

It doesn't say Heaven here but that would be good enough for me if i was in that position.

²⁷ But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.

²⁸ And it came to pass about an eight days after these sayings, he took Peter and John and James, and went up into a mountain to pray.

²⁹ And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering.

³⁰ And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias:

³¹ Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.

³² But Peter and they that were with him were heavy with sleep: and when they were awake, they saw his glory, and the two men that stood with him.

³³ And it came to pass, as they departed from him, Peter said unto Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias: not knowing what he said.

³⁴ While he thus spake, there came a cloud, and overshadowed them: and they feared as they entered into the cloud.

³⁵ And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.

³⁶ And when the voice was past, Jesus was found alone. And they kept it close, and told no man in those days any of those things which they had seen.LUKE 9

Moses and Elias are hanging out some place. Can't say how every thing happens just gotta believe its all good in the end with our LORD And everything that is with Him.

[enoob57]

On 11/29/2020 at 6:27 PM, Completed Israelite said:

I know everyone is of the belief that When they die they then goto Heaven. but there is no such verse in the Bible anywhere I can find. 

From what I've seen the promise is ...eventually,..Eternal Life on Earth, and then the New earth, But nothing says while a person is dead they ascend into the Heavens. 

There is no dead people in Heaven. 

But people of God while dead get true peace and rest, a state of repose. Until the ressurection of the dead. Then the reward of Eternal life. 

Mark 14:62

62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
KJV

2 Cor 5:8

8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
KJV
 

[keet]

22 hours ago, glff said:

If they were asleep, they cannot be witnesses! imo...  : )

glf

It's not necessary that the witnesses still be "awake" or alive.  They witness to us through the scripture.  Besides, even if they were awake/alive, we can't communicate directly with them, only through the historical record, so they are no more effective to us as witnesses (for now) whether dead or alive.

[Your closest friendnt]

17 minutes ago, keet said:

It's not necessary that the witnesses still be "awake" or alive.  They witness to us through the scripture.  Besides, even if they were awake/alive, we can't communicate directly with them, only through the historical record, so they are no more effective to us as witnesses (for now) whether dead or alive.

King David a Life time soldier, said: 

"I will be watching from the walls of Sheol."

What did David wanted to say? 

One question at a time. 

[TheBlade]

Christ has the keys to death and hell yes? "I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death."

So OT "and the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it". The thief on the cross "today you will be WITH ME in paradise"

"For we know that if the tent that is our earthly home is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens."

"Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord."

What I know is.. if this body/tent dies I  will be with my Father.. I will be in paradise. Now WHERE exactly that is? It was made just for you  I believe

 

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, TheBlade said:

Christ has the keys to death and hell yes? "I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death."

So OT "and the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it". The thief on the cross "today you will be WITH ME in paradise"

"For we know that if the tent that is our earthly home is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens."

"Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord."

What I know is.. if this body/tent dies I  will be with my Father.. I will be in paradise. Now WHERE exactly that is? It was made just for you  I believe

 

The Paradise in this context is not the Garden of Eden, but it was the place God gave to Abraham and to his descendants after their death. 

God made Abraham a Patriarch of a Nation and he set him apart from the world, in Life and in Death. 

Their Inheritance in Life was the Land of Canaan and their Inheritance at death was a place which was called "?Abraham's Inheritance "Sheol " or the Bossom of Abraham...

Abraham as a Patriarch was the first one to go there.

And Jesus Christ was the last because Abraham joined Jesus Christ as he and David and everyone of his descendants who was there were waiting for their Lord God as the Christ to take them unto his own Inheritance the Heavenly one.