Is QAnon part of the delusion in 2 Thessalonians 2:11

[Diaste]

1 hour ago, luigi said:

The first interview in the Post article was about a 20 something year old whose mother disowned him. His stepmother then picked up the 20 something year old, and had earlier told him that what his natural mother did to him was not love. If the 20 something year old's mother did not know love for her own natural born son, because of her new beliefs in QAnon; then, since God is love (1 John 4:7-8 & 16), there is something very wrong with QAnon, where its affects are Anti love/AntiChrist.

I'm not backing Qanon. I have seen many claims that so far did not come to pass and don't look like they will, or can. 

But look at President Trump. Did you see what happened to him in the media? Every little thing was turned in a major scandal and an attack on the man's character and all the good he did was ignored. 

In the beginning it was said by many he could not fix the economy, when he did they  took the credit and said the economy wasn't broken. This is an example of what has to be dealt with in the media and Congress. 

Is it true that a woman disowned her son? Sure. That happens all the time and has nothing to do with Q. Parents disown children. This isn't proof something is wrong with a whole group but rather something is wrong with the mother, the son, or both. Probably both. I guarantee you aren't hearing the whole story and the story may have a great deal of spin involved as a way to discredit a group and not disprove claims. Again, I'm not supporting Q, just saying the media isn't honest normally and when they are on the attack even less so.

Anytime someone goes up against an organization they are going to get attacked even if they are innocent and telling the truth. If they are somehow violating the agenda of an organization they are an enemy to that organization and that organization will do anything to discredit them

Remember Nicholas Sandman? He was just in a place legally and got used by MSM to support an agenda and it turned out the MSM was wrong, all of them. We all saw the video. MSM outright lied. They cannot be trusted in any way. 

Is Q correct? Maybe on some things. Are they always wrong? Probably not. 

[luigi]

1 minute ago, Diaste said:

 

Is it true that a woman disowned her son? Sure. That happens all the time and has nothing to do with Q. Parents disown children. This isn't proof something is wrong with a whole group but rather something is wrong with the mother, the son, or both. Probably both. I guarantee you aren't hearing the whole story and the story may have a great deal of spin involved as a way to discredit a group and not disprove claims. Again, I'm not supporting Q, just saying the media isn't honest normally and when they are on the attack even less so.

 

There are several interviews in the article. All of them had one thing in common;...that the family members who did not believe in many of the ludicrous assertions made by QAnon, were unable to talk to their QAnon family members about how ridiculous those conspiracy claims were. This broke the family members apart.

In order to not cause any friction, all that one can do is not talk to the family member who is QAnon about any of their new beliefs. How long this can continue though, I do not know.

[Diaste]

Just now, luigi said:

There are several interviews in the article. All of them had one thing in common;...that the family members who did not believe in many of the ludicrous assertions made by QAnon, were unable to talk to their QAnon family members about how ridiculous those conspiracy claims were. This broke the family members apart.

In order to not cause any friction, all that one can do is not talk to the family member who is QAnon about any of their new beliefs. How long this can continue though, I do not know.

That's not good. That's control like in a cult. 

We'll know the truth one day. This may not be greatest approach but I trust none of them. I don't really trust any person, in the spirit of full disclosure. I love people and I care about a great many but trust is hard to come by these days.

[luigi]

7 minutes ago, Diaste said:

That's not good. That's control like in a cult. 

We'll know the truth one day. This may not be greatest approach but I trust none of them. I don't really trust any person, in the spirit of full disclosure. I love people and I care about a great many but trust is hard to come by these days.

Yes, QAnon members are controlled like in a cult. And they mostly seem to be unaware of it. Either that, or they willfully want to believe lies.

Edited February 26, 2021 by luigi

[teddyv]

Back to the OP, I don't know if QAnon can be addressed specifically to the Scriptural passage. While I deplore its premise, it's really a minor conspiracy in the larger scheme of things. I see it more as symptomatic of people grasping for anything in what appears to be a very chaotic and confusing world, where bad things seems to randomly happen. Conspiracy theories appeal to some people, I believe, because it brings a sense of order - someone/something is actually controlling things and are why things are not good for them.

[luigi]

20 hours ago, teddyv said:

Back to the OP, I don't know if QAnon can be addressed specifically to the Scriptural passage. While I deplore its premise, it's really a minor conspiracy in the larger scheme of things. I see it more as symptomatic of people grasping for anything in what appears to be a very chaotic and confusing world, where bad things seems to randomly happen. Conspiracy theories appeal to some people, I believe, because it brings a sense of order - someone/something is actually controlling things and are why things are not good for them.

Yes, conspiracy theories appeal to many people, for various motives. Many of these people love these conspiracy theories even above their own family members, as the interviews in the Washington Post describe.

So we are back to the OP question if whether QAnon represents part of the delusion the Lord will choose to send on those who deny the truth? In my opinion it is part of the delusion the Lord is sending now on those who deny truth. If it were not, then whatever the delusion/s the Lord will send would have to be significantly worse than those from QAnon's conspiracy theories that have so many thousands of families now in total disarray.

[teddyv]

1 minute ago, luigi said:

Yes, conspiracy theories appeal to many people, for various motives. Many of these people love these conspiracy theories even above their own family members, as the interviews in the Washington Post describe.

So we are back to the OP question if whether QAnon represents part of the delusion the Lord will choose to send on those who deny the truth? In my opinion it is part of the delusion the Lord is sending now on those who deny truth. If it were not, then whatever the delusion/s the Lord will send would have to be significantly worse than those from QAnon's conspiracy theories that have so many thousands of families now in total disarray.

But how big is QAnon outside the US? I'm in Canada so of course I'm aware, bit the conspiracy is mainly centred around US matters. The strong delusion would seem to to require a more global reach.

QAnon certainly could be a symptom of a larger trend.

[luigi]

3 minutes ago, teddyv said:

But how big is QAnon outside the US? I'm in Canada so of course I'm aware, bit the conspiracy is mainly centred around US matters. The strong delusion would seem to to require a more global reach.

QAnon certainly could be a symptom of a larger trend.

It could be that QAnon conspiracy theories/delusions will continue to grow and spread throughout the world, as it has been doing in North America for the last couple of years.

Anxiety throughout the world is increasing, with many people throughout the world now looking for leaders (Messiahs) who claim to know the way to make things good again. These are the false Messiahs the Lord informs us who will come around when things start going South. As such, I believe QAnon's theories as part of the delusion/s the Lord chooses for those rejecting truth, by which the devil will deceive many people into believing his lies.

[Revelation Man]

On 2/25/2021 at 10:06 AM, luigi said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/conspiracy-theories-qanon-family-members/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F301dc5e%2F60367f4f9d2fda4c88f0ccae%2F5b2ce1b3ae7e8a6f6d2a6d8d%2F8%2F66%2F60367f4f9d2fda4c88f0ccae

Your first mistake is in reading and/or believing anything the Washington Post says. Its pure propaganda.

Having said that, I never buy into or try to disprove these type things, it might be the FBI (who are scum by the way) trying to give out disinformation for all I know. I could care less, if its real or not real. Is the Washington Post real? No, its propaganda. So, there, whats the difference between the two? 

[CaptWalker]

Not sure about this but do have some questions about AL-ANON, such as why are those involved so uptight all the time if they are truly "delivered" from alcoholism? Of course that doesn't mean ALL of them are this way but a personal mechanic/former supervisor of mine had some issues i noticed, one of which was using the "F word", and finally to myself, telling me to my face that he thought he was just wasting his "effing time" with me, and told me to leave, which i did. I even witnessed him literally screaming and cursing at one of his tenants for something she had said that offended him i suppose?? And i think maybe he didn't like the fact that i preferred staying with my Mom(who he didn't like as well of course) instead of renting a room at his place? Either way it's all good since i really didn't even need any reasons to avoid A-anonymous, and have already heard more than enough not to have to be talked into going to their useless meetings by some foul-mouthed supporter of theirs.