Witchcraft

[Diaste]

I have a friend that practices what I can only call witchcraft.

I could be hyping this a bit but from what she describes it sound's like seances, tarot reading and some type of spiritual warfare.

I really don't know what to think. I know enough to stay away from that stuff myself. Don't need it anyway, our Father is the supreme power and there is no need to fear man or beast. 

She also describes being attacked in a spiritual way then later engaging in some spiritual battle to fight those people...casting spells on her...I think that's what happening from what she says.

What do all of you know about this and is there a good way to approach a conversation? 

[Justin Adams]

22 minutes ago, Diaste said:

What do all of you know about this and is there a good way to approach a conversation? 

This is something we should take great care about. Any of these spirit beings are out to hurt us. God's Obedient Host never seek an audience with humans and we're told not to do this. Why? Because it works and is dangerous! We have a hard enough time relating to humans, but when it comes to the 'unseen others' we have no clue at all other than to KNOW they are out to cause us harm.

[Guest clancy]

40 minutes ago, Diaste said:

I have a friend that practices what I can only call witchcraft.

I could be hyping this a bit but from what she describes it sound's like seances, tarot reading and some type of spiritual warfare.

I really don't know what to think. I know enough to stay away from that stuff myself. Don't need it anyway, our Father is the supreme power and there is no need to fear man or beast. 

She also describes being attacked in a spiritual way then later engaging in some spiritual battle to fight those people...casting spells on her...I think that's what happening from what she says.

What do all of you know about this and is there a good way to approach a conversation? 

I have always wanted to visit a clairvoyant, only to suss them out, would they pick up on the Holy Spirit that indwells me, .it never materialised into anything other than that, ..they don’t scare me ,why would they, when I have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit...I have His protection in all things.

Edited March 7, 2021 by clancy

[Who me]

45 minutes ago, Diaste said:

What do all of you know about this and is there a good way to approach a conversation

The devil is real and he does work through demons and followers of him.

 

Be very careful to live closely to Jesus, to know what you are talking about. If you attend a church that only talks about having faith, of just believing , then you are not trained as a Christian.

 

Should you talk with this friend,I would suggest asking her about death and what happens next?

Does she believe in life after death, in heaven and hell?

How does one end in hell? John 3:18 is were I would go.

 

Yo aren't arguing for or against witchcraft or Christianity but about the afterlife and the fact that it is God who controls this. By implication one should then follow God.

[Diaste]

8 minutes ago, clancy said:

I have always wanted to visit a clairvoyant, only to suss them out, would they pick up on the Holy Spirit that indwells me, .it never materialised into anything other than that, ..they don’t scare me ,why would they, when I have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit...I have His protection in all things.

I think most people into that sort of stuff are faking it anyway. Like auras for instance. If you read about the meaning of different colored auras it's all really the same for any color aura. Just say something nice about a person and comment about the appropriate color of aura and they think you're a seer or a diviner, or whatever. It's a shell game.

I think my friend might be into something deeper and darker. It's odd though, her personality around me doesn't reflect darkness. I lived with my wife for 18 years and her personality was quite dark all while confessing to be a Christian. Strange.

[Diaste]

29 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

This is something we should take great care about. Any of these spirit beings are out to hurt us. God's Obedient Host never seek an audience with humans and we're told not to do this. Why? Because it works and is dangerous! We have a hard enough time relating to humans, but when it comes to the 'unseen others' we have no clue at all other than to KNOW they are out to cause us harm.

I agree. I'm not afraid just uninformed. I know little about it even though I have seen it manifest over time. Our Father is the supreme power and the spirits obey Him. So though Him in me I have a resource of protection and power. 

She's a sweet person and I feel I need to have a conversation with her. 

And just for the record we are friends only. 

[David1701]

2 hours ago, Diaste said:

I have a friend that practices what I can only call witchcraft.

I could be hyping this a bit but from what she describes it sound's like seances, tarot reading and some type of spiritual warfare.

I really don't know what to think. I know enough to stay away from that stuff myself. Don't need it anyway, our Father is the supreme power and there is no need to fear man or beast. 

She also describes being attacked in a spiritual way then later engaging in some spiritual battle to fight those people...casting spells on her...I think that's what happening from what she says.

What do all of you know about this and is there a good way to approach a conversation? 

The powers of darkness are real and they're dangerous, so be careful.  Now, having said that, you could ask her if she knows about a power far greater than that which she uses (or thinks she uses; really, they use her), then use that as an introduction to God, the broken law/sin (including the warnings against witchcraft), guilt and spiritual death, the cross, resurrection and salvation through faith in Jesus Christ.

I would strongly recommend praying before, during (internally) and after witnessing to her, since the powers of darkness are directly involved and they will look for any way to get back at you and to keep her.  God is almighty, they are not; but, this is a war and not to be treated lightly.

She is probably demonised, so you might have to cast something out, in which case prayer and fasting is recommended.

Matt. 17:18-21 (MKJV)

 18 And Jesus rebuked the demon, and he departed out of him. And the child was cured from that very hour.
  19 Then the disciples came to Jesus apart, and said, Why could we not cast him out?
  20 And Jesus said to them, Because of your unbelief. For truly I say to you, If you have faith like a grain of mustard seed, you shall say to this mountain, Move from here to there. And it shall move. And nothing shall be impossible to you.
  21 However, this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting. 

Edited March 7, 2021 by David1701

[appy]

True that the world is full of charlatans, However, occultic practices are not fake. Seeking out, even in curiosity any form of the occult is forbidden in the bible. Scripture vehemently condemns all forms of the occult. The occult (witchcraft) is any practice that seeks spirituality, knowledge, or power apart from God. The bible teaches and commands us to stay away from any and ALL forms of witchcraft. We are not to learn anything occultic or even be curious about it.

Share the gospel with this person and share why you believe as you do about the gospel. It is wise to NOT spend a lot of time around such individuals. Do NOT let her beliefs in the occult influence you! Or fool you into thinking such things are safe. Steer clear of the subject on anything occultic. Our Godly lives are to be a shining example of Christ, and an influence to those around us to put their trust and faith in Jesus only.

[Starise]

Many who follow witchcraft are led to believe it was the original religion back before Christianity and are told it's a more "pure" religion. If they had interest you could show them their religion does not predate anything. God has always been and we worship that God who created the entities they worship.

Those who look into satanism will eventually be confronted with teachings that supposedly discredit the Bible. For those who have not studied the Bible in depth to get answers, their answers seem to make sense making Christianity look like a fabricated belief. I believe LOTS of people are misled this way.

So their "line" is- 

We have a religion with roots that predate Christianity. Our religion is the real religion.

The Bible has been discredited and is not a reliable source of information.

Satan is really a benevolent being.

Discredit scripture, show an alternative that lets them pretty much do whatever they want to do in the flesh. Tell then Satan isn't so bad after all. These are all reason people give who are into the occult. If they choose to believe a lie and not investigate the truth there isn't much you can do. If they choose to investigate further, they will see the lies of satan. Many people who come running out of the occult have had a bad demonic experience, so it is in the best interest of the belief not to expose it for what it truly is.

The occult is also like a trap. Once a person has made promises to these entities or become possessed themselves, they are indeed trapped. The constantly have the terms of their "responsibility" laid out if they think about leaving. Those deep into the occult can be accused of murder because they do murder, so this is yet another reason not to leave it for them. Many would be in jail for what they've done.

Those dabbling in the occult are in a very dangerous place indeed. The spirits lie and make these spirit guides look like a helpful thing.

[Duck]

The only thing that I can suggest, is giving your friend these verses, especially v’s. 10, 11 and 12

Avoid Wicked Customs

⁹ “When you come into the land which the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations.

 ¹⁰ There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 

¹¹ or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. 

¹² For all who do these things are an abomination to the Lord, and because of these abominations the Lord your God drives them out from before you.

 ¹³ You shall be blameless before the Lord your God. 

¹⁴ For these nations which you will dispossess listened to soothsayers and diviners; but as for you, the Lord your God has not appointed such for you.