Repentance... is it from sin or from unbelief?

[johnthebaptist]

23 minutes ago, leah777 said:

there seems to be different schools of thought on sin.

some think we dont sin anymore once we are saved

some think we are still human, so we sin due to humanity

some think that we dont have to say sorry anymore or ask for forgiveness as forgiveness is automatic.

some think the opposite.

is very confusing.

The problem with sin, I believe, is that it comes back to bite us. Example: You rob a bank, you go to prison. Usually, though, it is much more subtle, and we don't understand that when we sin, we hurt ourselves. And I believe that is why the Lord gave us commandments - to spare us the unpleasant consequences of sin. And I don't think many understand this. 

[LearningToLetGo]

Faith makes us aware of our sin. Without faith there is ignorance.

[Waggles]

1 hour ago, leah777 said:

is very confusing

No not really ... just read the epistles written to the church giving correction and instructions on how to stay saved. 

There is so much dumbing down of Christian faith these days - most modern new age doctrines are opposed to the truth of the Word of God. Ignore them.

Just read your epistles and learn directly from the word of God - 

It is not confusing - just be a doer of the word:

Titus 2:11  For the grace of God hath appeared to all men bringing salvation, 
12  instructing us, that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly and righteously and godly in this present age; 
13  awaiting the blessed hope and appearing of the glory of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; 
14  who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify to himself a people for his possession, zealous of good works. 
15  These things speak and exhort and reprove with all authority. Let no one despise thee. 

[leah777]

I don't need instructions on how to stay saved. I am saved. Full stop.

Repentance is part of my walk with God, as a fallen human. Not part of my salvation.

[Eternally Gratefull]

1 minute ago, leah777 said:

I don't need instructions on how to stay saved. I am saved. Full stop.

Repentance is part of my walk with God, as a fallen human. Not part of my salvation.

Amen. Not by good works, but by Gods mercy he saved us (you)

[Waggles]

18 minutes ago, leah777 said:

I don't need instructions on how to stay saved. I am saved. Full stop.

Well no wonder you are confused.

The epistles to the churches are there for our admonition and exhortation - they guide and correct us and explain the perils of failing.

You may have come to the Lord on a certain day, but you need to keep on walking with the Lord until the end. 

Edited March 7, 2021 by Waggles

[The_Patriot21]

both...non belief is in itself a sin...

[Eternally Gratefull]

22 minutes ago, Waggles said:

Well no wonder you are confused.

The epistles to the churches are there for our admonition and exhortation - they guide and correct us and explain the perils of failing.

You may have come to the Lord on a certain day, but you need to keep on walking with the Lord until the end. 

If this is true she is under law not under grace,

in fact, according to the law no one ever lived up to Gods standard,  for all have sinned and fall short, as Paul said, whoever is under law is cursed because cursed is everyone who does not confirm and obey every word, 

so why would you condemn her when you you yourself can never be good enough to earn salvation. This is confusing,,,

[Eternally Gratefull]

6 minutes ago, The_Patriot21 said:

both...non belief is in itself a sin...

Amen, They are condemned already because of that sin, and will remain in that state unless they repent (come to faith)

[Waggles]

2 minutes ago, Eternally Gratefull said:

so why would you condemn her when you you yourself can never be good enough to earn salvation. This is confusing,,,

What nonsense is this? 

No one is condemning @leah777 yes we are under grace and therefore we continue to walk in the Spirit and to walk pleasing unto God.

We are required to put the effort into becoming wise unto salvation by discerning what is good and what is evil (sin) and to be an overcomer.

Grace is not an excuse to become slothful and presume we are saved because once upon a time we got baptised or whatever. 

Remember the words of our Lord and God - not everybody who says to me Lord, Lord shall enter the kingdom of God - yes Christians can fail.

Colossians 1:28  Him we proclaim, warning everyone and teaching everyone with all wisdom, that we may present everyone mature in Christ.

Romans 6:1  What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? 
6:6  We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. 
6:12  Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. 
6:13  Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness. 
14  For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. 
15  What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means! 

Ephesians 5:8  for at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light 
5:9  (for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true), 
5:10  and try to discern what is pleasing to the Lord.