Futurism

[Your closest friendnt]

5 minutes ago, Alive said:

God was speaking to Moses and yes those were the words of the Lamb of God and no the Gospel of the Cross was not preached to Pharaoh.

What is your point, friend?

We need to clarify.

Do you mean the Slain Lamb of God?

[Alive]

The following verses of scripture are a hint....

John 1:18 (NAS20S) No one has seen God at any time; God the only Son, who is in the arms of the Father, He has explained Him.

John 5:37 (NAS20S) “And the Father who sent Me, He has testified about Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.

John 6:46 (NAS20S) “ Not that anyone has seen the Father, except the One who is from God; He has seen the Father.

 

[Alive]

2 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

We need to clarify.

Do you mean the Slain Lamb of God?

Rev. 13:8 (NKJVS) All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Connect the dots, brother.

[Your closest friendnt]

11 minutes ago, Alive said:

Rev. 13:8 (NKJVS) All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Connect the dots, brother.

The one who spoke to Moses said: I am the Lord.

Are you sure that he said "I am the slain Lamb of God?

[Your closest friendnt]

Who was the one who Slain the Lamb before the foundation of the earth? 

[Riverwalker]

Before Abraham was.. I AM

 

[Your closest friendnt]

34 minutes ago, Riverwalker said:

Before Abraham was.. I AM

 

Jesus said that when he was 33 years and two months old. 

And if someone search his body he wan't find any wounds to indicate that he had been slain.  

Edited April 2, 2021 by Your closest friendnt

[Arrabon]

@Justin Adams

I read through your original post, and some of the posts of others after yours, and to be honest with you I've never heard of "Futurism", and it seems like to me what your mulling over and trying to figure out could drive a person "Loony." 

For me the future doesn't matter much except that I don't know when Christ is coming back, but I do know that I need to continually keep moving forward in my studies, and my ministry work helping others, or just being there for others like my oldest son right now, who has a huge plate full to deal with, and encouraging some of my neighbors who have struggles too.

For me, God has to take care of the future. There are too many people with all kinds of ideas about what this and that means, but it's all guess work, and they haven't a clue if any of what they think is true, so why get caught caught up in all that, when you could be working on your life right where your at today.

What I know that God say's about the future is in Matthew 6:34, "do not be anxious for tomorrow, for tomorrow will take care of itself."

Over the decades, I used to say over the years, but then I went way past that .

I've learned to put a lot of things in Gods hands and keep my life simple, as God says in Philippians 4:6-8, "to be anxious for nothing...", and Jeremiah 29:11-14 , "For I know the plans I have for you."

I have a nicely balanced life. I have a hobby, my yard work, and I love it when the sun comes out this time of year, and I can go for walks. But I also love to come here and one other forum, as Christianity seems to have nearly disappeared in truth, and I also like to "MINISTER to people, encourage people when their hurting and be of help when I can, and my studies are a JOY TO ME, as the HOLY SPIRIT continues to grow and mature me, and open my eyes to new truths and new depths to His word that I can apply to my life NOW.

God bless all of you posting in this topic. I hope you all find answers that bring you the peace I am blessed with daily

My name is Arrabon

Edited April 2, 2021 by Arrabon

[David1701]

8 hours ago, Alive said:

I would only add that although making this distinction may be technically correct and I'm not certain that it is--that 'gift of faith' will always be accompanied with regeneration. When I think about my own experience, it seems to me to have happened instantaneously.

:-)

I am not arguing your point--just discussing it.

When that fella read to me "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life"--the Lord right then spoke to me and said--"I am the Truth".

Something within me immediately 'agreed' with Him. That something was 'FAITH'.

It was quite a moment, in which I was joined to Christ--the Cross, the Resurrection and the Ascension. I was a bystander and yet I wasn't.

:-)

Your experience is very similar to mine. 

I was reading the gospel according to Luke (still in darkness and unbelief, but convicted of sin, knowing that I'd broken God's law and looking for a way out of my guilt and sin) and, when I reached Luke 23:34 (it was in a Gideons' NIV NT - it was one of the 50 verses (or parts of verses) that Gideons had put back in, the NIV translators having removed it - it was based on a very early edition of the NIV NT), suddenly I knew, beyond all doubt, that when Jesus died on the cross, he took my sins upon him and saved me.  I was flooded with overpowering sorrow for my sin, faith in Jesus and overwhelming love for him, all at the same time.

Luke 23:34 (WEB) Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they don’t know what they are doing.”. Dividing his garments among them, they cast lots.

I had not reasoned anything out; I had come to no conclusions about how to be saved; and I had made no decision to commit myself to Jesus (or any of the other ways that evangelism-by-numbers might word it), prior to this salvation experience.  Once I had been given this new heart, along with repentance, faith and love, THEN I made the decision to follow Jesus all my days and to seek to please him.

Someone could make decisions to follow Jesus, until the cows come home; but it won't save him, unless God has mercy upon him and makes him born again, giving him a new heart and spirit that repents and believes in Jesus Christ, in love.

The new heart/spirit, repentance and faith all seem to happen at the same time; but, the new heart has to come first (in logical order), because the natural man will not repent and believe in Jesus - the Bible is very clear about this.

Edited April 3, 2021 by David1701
typos and clarifying additions

[David1701]

8 hours ago, Riverwalker said:

Again I agree God does all the work for salvation but in the end, softened heart an all...WE make the choice.  And until we make that choice, we are still dead in sin and need to be born again

 

That is not what the Bible says.  The Bible never says that salvation by grace through faith is dependent upon the choice of sinful man.