Teachers, can you do better, or worse?

[Whyme]

Ephesians 4:11 And He gave some as apostles, some as prophets, some as evangelists, some as [d]pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the [e]saints for the work of ministry, for the building up of the body of Christ; 13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the [f]knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature [g]which belongs to the fullness of Christ. 14 [h]As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of people, by craftiness in deceitful scheming; 15 but [j]speaking the truth in love, [k]we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, that is, Christ, 16 from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together [l]by what every joint supplies, according to the [m]proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love.

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[Whyme]

14 minutes ago, Whyme said:

14 [h]As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine,

1 Co 13:11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me.

[Marathoner]

11 hours ago, Whyme said:

I wasnt appointed by God and dont claim to be.

That's not an answer to the question posed to you, my friend. I asked if you were without error. Are you?

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[OneLight]

7 hours ago, Whyme said:

Maybe there are some good teachers out there. Look at Dr Charles Stanley, hes considered a good teacher, but he teaches we still observe the Sabbath. Maybe hes not the best teacher for me. 

I have heard him say many times that the Sabbath is made for man, not man for the Sabbath.  The Sabbath is a day of rest.  If we worked 7 days a week without a break, we will become sickly, which is true.  Our body needs rest and God gave us this example as He worked creating for 6 days and rested on the 7th.   I never heard his say that we were to keep all the Jewish Sabbatical laws.  What do you see wrong with that?  What did you hear Charles Stanley say that turned you away from him?

[Alive]

This thread went off the rails---some of you folks know where the line is. Topic not person.

Please--the TOS.

[Starise]

Just now, Alive said:

This thread went off the rails---some of you folks know where the line is. Topic not person.

Please--the TOS.

I agree there should not be personal attacks, however when a poster is engaging in flawed logic we can't call them on it? We can't delve into the possibilities for their reasoning?

In any case. I have better things to do. Yada yada yada. I try to help and get deleted.

[Alive]

Sure---but there is a line that shouldn't be crossed and all to frequently it is crossed.

[steve morrow]

PRIDE / ARROGANCE   ---   FALLACY

 

ACTS 13:10  AND  SAID  O FULL  OF  ALL  SUBTILTY  AND  ALL  MISCHIEF  THOU CHILD  OF  THE  devil  ---THOU  ENEMY  OF  ALL  RIGHTEOUSNESS  WILT  THOU  NOT  --CEASE  TO  PERVERT--  THE  RIGHT  WAYS  OF  THE  LORD

 

MARK 8:32 and he spake that saying openly and peter took  HIM  and began to rebuke  HIM

--8:33--  but when   HE   had turned about and looked upon  HIS  disciples  HE  rebuked peter saying   ---  GET  THEE  BEHIND  ME  SATAN  FOR  THOU  SAVOUREST  NOT  THE  THINGS  THAT  BE  OF  GOD  ---  BUT  THE  THINGS  THAT  BE  OF  MEN

 

PROVERBS 24:1  BE  NOT  THOU  ENVIOUS  AGAINST  EVIL  MEN  NEITHER  DESIRE  TO  BE  WITH  THEM  

--24:2--  FOR  THEIR  HEART  STUDIETH  DESTRUCTION  AND  THEIR  LIPS  TALK  OF  MISCHIEF

 

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PROVERBS 22:20  HAVE  NOT  I  WRITTEN  TO  THEE  EXCELLENT  THINGS  IN  COUNSELS  AND  KNOWLEDGE  

--22:21--  THAT  I  MIGHT  MAKE  THEE  KNOW  THE  CERTAINTY  OF  THE  WORDS  OF  TRUTH  THAT  THOU  MIGHTEST  ANSWER  ---THE  WORDS  OF  TRUTH---  TO  THEM  THAT  SEND  UNTO  THEE

PROVERBS 12:17  HE  THAT  SPEAKETH  TRUTH  SHOWETH  FORTH  RIGHTEOUSNESS  ---BUT  A  FALSE  WITNESS  DECEIT---

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PROVERBS 8:6  HEAR  FOR  I  WILL  SPEAK  OF  EXCELLENT  THINGS  AND  THE  OPENING  OF  MY  LIPS  SHALL  BE  RIGHT  THINGS  

--8:7--  FOR  MY  MOUTH  SHALL  SPEAK  TRUTH  AND  WICKEDNESS  IS  AN  ABOMINATION  TO  MY  LIPS  

--8:8--  ALL  THE  WORDS  OF  MY  MOUTH  ARE  IN  RIGHTEOUSNESS  THERE  IS  NOTHING  FROWARD  OR  PERVERSE  IN  THEM

 

ROMANS 10:3  FOR  THEY  BEING  IGNORANT  OF  GODS  RIGHTEOUSNESS  AND  GOING  ABOUT  TO  ESTABLISH  THEIR  OWN  RIGHTEOUSNESS  HAVE  NOT  SUBMITTED  THEMSELVES  UNTO  THE  RIGHTEOUSNESS  OF  GOD 

 

JAMES 3:14  BUT  IF  YOU  HAVE  BITTER  ENVYING  AND  STRIFE  IN  YOUR  HEARTS  ---GLORY  NOT---  AND  LIE  NOT  AGAINST  THE  TRUTH  

 

*******PSALM 144:3  LORD  WHAT  IS  MAN  THAT  THOU  TAKEST  KNOWLEDGE  OF  HIM  OR  THE  SON  OF  MAN  THAT  THOU  MAKEST  ACCOUNT  OF  HIM*******

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST  

[Whyme]

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[Whyme]

3 hours ago, OneLight said:

I have heard him say many times that the Sabbath is made for man, not man for the Sabbath.  The Sabbath is a day of rest.  If we worked 7 days a week without a break, we will become sickly, which is true.  Our body needs rest and God gave us this example as He worked creating for 6 days and rested on the 7th.   I never heard his say that we were to keep all the Jewish Sabbatical laws.  What do you see wrong with that?  What did you hear Charles Stanley say that turned you away from him?

He said we still had to observe sabbath. Im not sure what he meant exactly but i assume he was referring to Sunday. Jesus didnt rest on the sabbath, he did Gods work. 

Edited April 23, 2021 by Whyme