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43 minutes ago, Riverwalker said:

Jesus did die on the cross, but He did not die from Crucifixion. (speaking of physical death)

His bones were not broken, his heart did not fail, He did not die of asphyxiation and He did not bleed out.  When He had completed the work of the cross he cried out in a LOUD voice (still with energy and air) and "gave up" His spirit

Matthew 27: 50 And Jesus cried out again with a loud [agonized] voice, and gave up His spirit [voluntarily, sovereignly dismissing and releasing His spirit from His body in submission to His Father’s plan] - Amplified

When I saw this last night I looked a little further and found this commentary from Adam Clarke

Not one to take the words of even the wisest of men ( and I am unfamiliar with this person) I looked further remembering something Jesus had said

John 10:17 “Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. 18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father.”

While this does not at all mitigate the horribleness of crucifixion, it is good to know that Jesus began His victory over death by  determining his own.

Thank you Lord Jesus for what you did for us.

Very thought provoking and to ponder before God...

I wonder if this was because Jesus could not die, expect if He voluntary gave up His life in this world? 

Thanks for the pondering before God...

Be blessed in Him, Not me


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2 hours ago, Riverwalker said:

Jesus did die on the cross, but He did not die from Crucifixion. (speaking of physical death)

His bones were not broken, his heart did not fail, He did not die of asphyxiation and He did not bleed out.  When He had completed the work of the cross he cried out in a LOUD voice (still with energy and air) and "gave up" His spirit

Matthew 27: 50 And Jesus cried out again with a loud [agonized] voice, and gave up His spirit [voluntarily, sovereignly dismissing and releasing His spirit from His body in submission to His Father’s plan] - Amplified

When I saw this last night I looked a little further and found this commentary from Adam Clarke

Not one to take the words of even the wisest of men ( and I am unfamiliar with this person) I looked further remembering something Jesus had said

John 10:17 “Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. 18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father.”

While this does not at all mitigate the horribleness of crucifixion, it is good to know that Jesus began His victory over death by  determining his own.

Thank you Lord Jesus for what you did for us.

The most precious love you can give anyone is a sacrificial love. 


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On 5/12/2021 at 9:46 PM, Riverwalker said:

Matthew 27: 50 And Jesus cried out again with a loud [agonized] voice, and gave up His spirit [voluntarily, sovereignly dismissing and releasing His spirit from His body in submission to His Father’s plan] 

Hv u ever seen painful deaths at the hospital ICU ? The same thing at the end of physical limit.


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On 5/13/2021 at 8:22 AM, R. Hartono said:

Hv u ever seen painful deaths at the hospital ICU ? The same thing at the end of physical limit.

Only when my sister in law died of cancer


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What do you mean?  We have been redeemed not with silver or gold but with the precious blood of the Lamb,  slain for us.

You cannot have a covenant without the shedding of blood.  The shedding of blood implies a physical death has taken place.

Yes he laid down his life willingly but at what price.? The blood of Jesus shed for us seven times from Gesemenne to Golgotha is able to santify the whole man spirit soul and body.

Isaiah 53:12 he poured out his life into death.

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On 5/12/2021 at 7:46 AM, Riverwalker said:

Jesus did die on the cross, but He did not die from Crucifixion. (speaking of physical death)

His bones were not broken, his heart did not fail, He did not die of asphyxiation and He did not bleed out.  When He had completed the work of the cross he cried out in a LOUD voice (still with energy and air) and "gave up" His spirit

Matthew 27: 50 And Jesus cried out again with a loud [agonized] voice, and gave up His spirit [voluntarily, sovereignly dismissing and releasing His spirit from His body in submission to His Father’s plan] - Amplified

When I saw this last night I looked a little further and found this commentary from Adam Clarke

Not one to take the words of even the wisest of men ( and I am unfamiliar with this person) I looked further remembering something Jesus had said

John 10:17 “Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. 18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father.”

While this does not at all mitigate the horribleness of crucifixion, it is good to know that Jesus began His victory over death by  determining his own.

Thank you Lord Jesus for what you did for us.

His Birth, Life, Death, Burial, Resurrection proves that of the OP.

Love, Walter

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54 minutes ago, Walter and Deborah said:

His Birth, Life, Death, Burial, Resurrection proves that of the OP.

Love, Walter

Jesus died for the forgiveness of our sins.

Don't you believe that? 

He died from the Crusificton, from his nailing on the Cross. 

His blood was shed on the Cross. 

What do you think it happens when they drive nails to someone hands and feet, blood will poor out.

(Don't you believe that Jesus Christ was conceived and grew or nine months in Mary's womb beginning with being a fetus, going through the full circle of a human in the womb.)

The same thing happened to Jesus Christ he was executed to die by crisificton. 

That includes that the cause of death is from various reasons, because he was torture before he was nailed on the Cross. 

And we see him talking to his disciples from the Cross and to the thief on the other Cross and to the Roman's in charge asking for water. 

While he was nailed on the Cross, that is telling us that he was still alive when they perched his hands and his feet.

Don't you know that man's Spirit Man does not remained in his dead body but leaves when the body dies. 

He had the power to defend himself but he did not use it to saved himself. 

Before the foundation of the world the plan was to let them kill him by Crisificton, to be the Lamb of God who will die for the forgiveness of our sins that includes that his Father will not intervene to Saved him and Jesus Christ will not used his powers to Saved himself.

They Kill him by Crisificton. 

Jesus Christ said that the Priest will give him to Judgement and he will be condemned to be punished with the lashes and with nailing to the Cross. 

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On 5/12/2021 at 10:34 AM, Not me said:
On 5/12/2021 at 9:46 AM, Riverwalker said:

ohn 10:17 “Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. 18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father.”

While this does not at all mitigate the horribleness of crucifixion, it is good to know that Jesus began His victory over death by  determining his own.

Thank you Lord Jesus for what you did for us.

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Amen! There was never a moment when Jesus wasn't supremely victorious. Nobody or no thing ever held any power over Him.

Every breath He took and every step He took was ordained.

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2 minutes ago, Alive said:

Amen! There was never a moment when Jesus wasn't supremely victorious. Nobody or no thing ever held any power over Him.

Every breath He took and every step He took was ordained.

Jesus Christ died on the Cross, he was executed by Crisificton. 

He died for the forgivene for our sins. 

Jesus descended to the heart of the Earth for three days before he raised from the dead.

And on the day he raised from the dead he said to the women who he met close to his Tomb; 

:I did not present my self to the Father in Heaven, do not touch me just yet.

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