Defense of the Pre Trib Rapture

[Montana Marv]

13 minutes ago, Uriah said:

And this is supposed to mean that there there has already been a rapture/resurrection. So how do those who get saved during the tribulation get in?... They are shown in Rev.  20, about to begin reigning for a thousand yrs. Will there be ANOTHER rapture/resurrection for them?

The Rapture is a way into the First Resurrection for the Bride. Other saints go into or partake in the First Resurrection at different times. Not all saints are the Bride.

Was Saul's interaction with Christ on the road to Damascus a coming of Christ.

Was this the true second coming.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Uriah]

So, more than one rapture? Multiple resurrections? Multiple comings too?

 

Edited August 13, 2019 by Uriah

[Montana Marv]

2 hours ago, Uriah said:

So, more than one rapture? Multiple resurrections? Multiple comings too?

 

Multiple Resurrection s for the Just. Multiple for the Unjust. The Just go into the First, the Unjust go into the Second.  It's not sequence, it's position.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Uriah]

30 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

Multiple Resurrection s for the Just. Multiple for the Unjust. The Just go into the First, the Unjust go into the Second.  It's not sequence, it's position.

In Christ

Montana Marv

Ok, how many is each multiple?

[Diaste]

21 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

So do you declare that you don't know when the 2nd  Coming happens. For only God the Father knows this time.

The Rapture and Second Coming are two separate events supported by the Scriptures. Thus one is unknown and the other is known.

In Christ

Montana Marv

I know when the second coming occurs in relation to other events; before wrath and after the temple incident. 

This is clearly explained in the NT. 

There is nothing explicit in scripture about a secret return of the Lord.

 

[Montana Marv]

1 hour ago, Uriah said:

Ok, how many is each multiple?

At least four entries into the Resurrection for the Just or First Resurrection. At least three entries into the Resurrection for the Unjust or the Second Resurrection.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Uriah]

11 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

At least four entries into the Resurrection for the Just or First Resurrection. At least three entries into the Resurrection for the Unjust or the Second Resurrection.

In Christ

Montana Marv

I am interested in n where they can be found in the scriptures. I think I know of a partial list.

[Montana Marv]

1 hour ago, Uriah said:

I am interested in n where they can be found in the scriptures. I think I know of a partial list.

Second Resurrection. A/C and False Prophet first. Next most likely Satan and fallen Angels, followed by those in the GWT Judgment.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Uriah]

3 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Second Resurrection. A/C and False Prophet first. Next most likely Satan and fallen Angels, followed by those in the GWT Judgment.

In Christ

Montana Marv

Ok, before I go on, what about those I asked about earlier? After the pre trib rapture there will be those in Rev. 20 who resisted the mark etc. They are shown as reigning with Christ for 1,000 yrs. Is there another rapture for them and a resurrection for those who died during that time? Clearly they are there and they have missed the pre-trib rapture.resurrection.

Edited August 13, 2019 by Uriah

[Montana Marv]

2 hours ago, Uriah said:

Ok, before I go on, what about those I asked about earlier? After the pre trib rapture there will be those in Rev. 20 who resisted the mark etc. They are shown as reigning with Christ for 1,000 yrs. Is there another rapture for them and a resurrection for those who died during that time? Clearly they are there and they have missed the pre-trib rapture.resurrection.

Rev 20 has to do with those beheaded for their testimony for Jesus Christ.  They had not worshiped the beast or his image and did not receive the Mark.  What is the time frame, the 70th Week Only for their testimony.  Note, nothing prior to the 70th Week. Why, no beast, no Mark.  Yes they do reign with Christ for a 1000 years.  But as Priests of God and Christ.  These must wait under the Altar until the rest of the who are to be killed as they were killed (according to Rev 6:9-11) [5th Seal].

According to 1 Peter 2;  We are a chosen people (not a beheaded people), a royal priesthood, a holy nation,... that you may declare the praises of Him....  We become Priests at our Salvation. When does this occur, Since Pentecost.  So do see the boundaries :  After Pentecost, then those during the 70th Week.  Two distinct groups.

The Rapture (Harpozo) is a forcible taking, removal.  Nothing forcible after the Mill for those being changed.

In Christ

Montana Marv