Biden: Door to Door Vaccination Outreach Plan

[one.opinion]

1 hour ago, Slug1 said:

In your poking around, what did you find concerning what people are reporting about the various Covid VAXes? I understand the fact most are from unverified sources. However, as Christians there is "discernment," one can exercise.

Check my post in the previous page - 

I would argue that “discernment” sometimes means “don’t assume a massive cover-up perpetrated by both the government and the medical community when there is a lack of evidence for this conclusion.”

Edited July 8, 2021 by one.opinion

[BeyondET]

The Lambda is the latest variant to pop up, wonder what type will be in 5 yrs. could it be door to door looking for bodies.

the world of humans have just begun to live with a new human virus, could get ugly in a couple years.

Edited July 8, 2021 by BeyondET

[R. Hartono]

11 hours ago, missmuffet said:

I would tell them that I have not been vaccinated and that I will not be getting vaccinated. 

Chinese vaccine of Sinovac n Sinopharm are non mRNA but made from protein of death virus, no severe reaction unlike the US / Europe mRna jab with many severe reaction n many reported Cases.

[Slug1]

10 hours ago, one.opinion said:

Check my post in the previous page - 

I would argue that “discernment” sometimes means “don’t assume a massive cover-up perpetrated by both the government and the medical community when there is a lack of evidence for this conclusion.”

Any argument can be a lack of discernment, we're all guilty. However, out there in the world many are having problems from the experimental mNRA drug that is coined as a "vaccine." Problems ranging from minor to severe, even death but more do not know this because such cases do not meet the propaganda narrative and are dismissed by the news. Some say there are always losses from use of vaccines, which is true and we accept the losses. Yet we fail to understand many vaccines in the past were pulled from use when a "fraction" of problems arose when compared to what is happening with this experimental mNRA drug. 

Tell me, would "you" call a drug that has NO evidence of the Covid virus... a vaccine? The human body is designed to build up anti-bodies against viruses that are exposed to the body and this drug as NO virus for the body to be exposed too. Meaning, the body CANNOT naturally generate anti-bodies against this strain of covid. If any resistance is generated in the body due to this drug, it is done artificially, not naturally.  Also, this strain of Covid conveniently mutates each time the world begins to relent on lockdown measures. This fact alone should cause ALL discernment to go off like a whoopie light!

Do you have concerns about how each time lockdown measures begin to relent, this strain of Covid mutates? 

 

  

[Slug1]

11 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Both Ivermectin and HCQ or CQ must always be taken with ZINC n Vit D.

About 6 years ago, my Vit-D registered at 14 and doc said I need to get it up. Since then, each time I get blood work done by the VA for my yearly physical, the doc always mentioned how my vitamin D is at a consistent 55 or so. He was concerned that if I begin to have a metallic taste in my mouth, I'm overdosing the Vit-D. This past year, he said to keep up what I'm doing for health and if possible, get it up higher with a limit of 80. But if I get the metallic taste to back off on my consistency. 

[one.opinion]

19 minutes ago, Slug1 said:

Problems ranging from minor to severe, even death but more do not know this because such cases do not meet the propaganda narrative and are dismissed by the news.

You are again making claims without evidence. There is another name for this - rumor.

21 minutes ago, Slug1 said:

Yet we fail to understand many vaccines in the past were pulled from use when a "fraction" of problems arose when compared to what is happening with this experimental mNRA drug. 

Do you have any examples of vaccines that were no longer used after 3 confirmed deaths? Incidentally, these were all from the J&J vaccine (not mRNA). I don't know of any confirmed deaths related to the mRNA vaccines.

28 minutes ago, Slug1 said:

Tell me, would "you" call a drug that has NO evidence of the Covid virus... a vaccine? The human body is designed to build up anti-bodies against viruses that are exposed to the body and this drug as NO virus for the body to be exposed too. Meaning, the body CANNOT naturally generate anti-bodies against this strain of covid.

Let's start by looking at what a vaccine is. Dictionary.com defines a vaccine this way - "any preparation used as a preventive inoculation to confer immunity against a specific disease, usually employing an innocuous form of the disease agent, as killed or weakened bacteria or viruses, to stimulate antibody production."

It is true that mRNA vaccines are new in the vaccine development world. The concept has been around for about 15 years and some previous mRNA vaccines have been developed and started in very small clinical trials (https://www.nature.com/articles/nrd.2017.243.pdf). When the SARS-CoV-2 outbreak began, mRNA vaccines, with their relative ease of development and rapid production, suddenly became less of a small footnote of interest and developed into a critical strategy for combatting a deadly pandemic.

The idea is relatively simple, introduce the mRNA for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein into a recipient. That mRNA will be translated into a new protein that the body has not encountered before. As a foreign protein, the body mounts an immune response, which includes the development of memory B cells that are capable of making antibodies that will bind and neutralize that spike protein. Then, if an encounter with the REAL virus occurs, the body is ready and able to make those antibodies in a hurry. The antibodies bind to the spike protein and prevent it from effectively binding to the body's ACE-2 protein to begin an infection.

While the mRNA vaccines are new on this kind of scale, and do not contain any pathogen protein, they really are vaccines because they do initiate the process of antibody production. This is obviously not a natural process, but an artificial stimulation of a natural process. The bottom line is the same - antibody production is initiated, therefore it is a vaccine.

47 minutes ago, Slug1 said:

If any resistance is generated in the body due to this drug, it is done artificially, not naturally.

Correct, but the same is true of any vaccine. The stimulation is artificial, but the antibody production is natural.

48 minutes ago, Slug1 said:

Also, this strain of Covid conveniently mutates each time the world begins to relent on lockdown measures. This fact alone should cause ALL discernment to go off like a whoopie light!

The virus is constantly mutating. New variants are constantly produced. Some of these variants appear to have the potential to become more transmissible. Epidemiologists call these "variants of concern". These occur repeatedly in viruses, including the much more typical (before 2020) influenza virus.

There is ZERO cause for a "discernment alert" when a pandemic-causing virus does what viruses do all of the time already. There is no basis for this AT ALL. 

[R. Hartono]

11 hours ago, one.opinion said:

You are again making claims without evidence. There is another name for this - rumor.

Do you have any examples of vaccines that were no longer used after 3 confirmed deaths? Incidentally, these were all from the J&J vaccine (not mRNA). I don't know of any confirmed deaths related to the mRNA vaccines.

Let's start by looking at what a vaccine is. Dictionary.com defines a vaccine this way - "any preparation used as a preventive inoculation to confer immunity against a specific disease, usually employing an innocuous form of the disease agent, as killed or weakened bacteria or viruses, to stimulate antibody production."

It is true that mRNA vaccines are new in the vaccine development world. The concept has been around for about 15 years and some previous mRNA vaccines have been developed and started in very small clinical trials (https://www.nature.com/articles/nrd.2017.243.pdf). When the SARS-CoV-2 outbreak began, mRNA vaccines, with their relative ease of development and rapid production, suddenly became less of a small footnote of interest and developed into a critical strategy for combatting a deadly pandemic.

The idea is relatively simple, introduce the mRNA for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein into a recipient. That mRNA will be translated into a new protein that the body has not encountered before. As a foreign protein, the body mounts an immune response, which includes the development of memory B cells that are capable of making antibodies that will bind and neutralize that spike protein. Then, if an encounter with the REAL virus occurs, the body is ready and able to make those antibodies in a hurry. The antibodies bind to the spike protein and prevent it from effectively binding to the body's ACE-2 protein to begin an infection.

While the mRNA vaccines are new on this kind of scale, and do not contain any pathogen protein, they really are vaccines because they do initiate the process of antibody production. This is obviously not a natural process, but an artificial stimulation of a natural process. The bottom line is the same - antibody production is initiated, therefore it is a vaccine.

Correct, but the same is true of any vaccine. The stimulation is artificial, but the antibody production is natural.

The virus is constantly mutating. New variants are constantly produced. Some of these variants appear to have the potential to become more transmissible. Epidemiologists call these "variants of concern". These occur repeatedly in viruses, including the much more typical (before 2020) influenza virus.

There is ZERO cause for a "discernment alert" when a pandemic-causing virus does what viruses do all of the time already. There is no basis for this AT ALL. 

There are death people in this nation n severe side effects like paralyzed n lost of sight after the mRna Astra Zenecca jab, health authority simply denied it. Thousands people reported the severe reactions in news media they hv their names listed n seen.

But there are no death or severe reaction to the non mRna Chinese Sinovac n Sinopharm made from protein of dead Covid virus.

Edited July 9, 2021 by R. Hartono

[Slug1]

11 hours ago, one.opinion said:

You are again making claims without evidence. There is another name for this - rumor.

Do you have any examples of vaccines that were no longer used after 3 confirmed deaths? Incidentally, these were all from the J&J vaccine (not mRNA). I don't know of any confirmed deaths related to the mRNA vaccines.

Let's start by looking at what a vaccine is. Dictionary.com defines a vaccine this way - "any preparation used as a preventive inoculation to confer immunity against a specific disease, usually employing an innocuous form of the disease agent, as killed or weakened bacteria or viruses, to stimulate antibody production."

It is true that mRNA vaccines are new in the vaccine development world. The concept has been around for about 15 years and some previous mRNA vaccines have been developed and started in very small clinical trials (https://www.nature.com/articles/nrd.2017.243.pdf). When the SARS-CoV-2 outbreak began, mRNA vaccines, with their relative ease of development and rapid production, suddenly became less of a small footnote of interest and developed into a critical strategy for combatting a deadly pandemic.

The idea is relatively simple, introduce the mRNA for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein into a recipient. That mRNA will be translated into a new protein that the body has not encountered before. As a foreign protein, the body mounts an immune response, which includes the development of memory B cells that are capable of making antibodies that will bind and neutralize that spike protein. Then, if an encounter with the REAL virus occurs, the body is ready and able to make those antibodies in a hurry. The antibodies bind to the spike protein and prevent it from effectively binding to the body's ACE-2 protein to begin an infection.

While the mRNA vaccines are new on this kind of scale, and do not contain any pathogen protein, they really are vaccines because they do initiate the process of antibody production. This is obviously not a natural process, but an artificial stimulation of a natural process. The bottom line is the same - antibody production is initiated, therefore it is a vaccine.

Correct, but the same is true of any vaccine. The stimulation is artificial, but the antibody production is natural.

The virus is constantly mutating. New variants are constantly produced. Some of these variants appear to have the potential to become more transmissible. Epidemiologists call these "variants of concern". These occur repeatedly in viruses, including the much more typical (before 2020) influenza virus.

There is ZERO cause for a "discernment alert" when a pandemic-causing virus does what viruses do all of the time already. There is no basis for this AT ALL. 

As time continues, we'll see whether or not any discernment was exercised.

Edit: Let me add, people NEED to be heard. Denying people the right to be heard, those who suffer from negative effects of the jab they received, is a travesty.

Ever heard of Eric Clapton? He got heard, or at least those seeking... heard. So many are suffering and they are being denied "their" truth because they aren't heard.

Find the testimonies on the internet but to do so, you MUST use media that does not censor, that is not part of the propaganda machine.

Edited July 9, 2021 by Slug1

[Ozarkbound]

13 hours ago, one.opinion said:

 

Do you have any examples of vaccines that were no longer used after 3 confirmed deaths? Incidentally, these were all from the J&J vaccine (not mRNA). I don't know of any confirmed deaths related to the mRNA vaccines.

 

 

 

13 hours ago, one.opinion said:

 

The CDC which you seem to worship recommended the swine flu vaccine in 1976. Luckily, I had a discerning father that would not allow any of us to take the shot..

 

Waiting in long lines at schools and clinics, more than 40 million Americans -- almost 25% of the population -- received the swine flu vaccine before the program was halted in December after 10 weeks.

More than 500 people are thought to have developed Guillain-Barre syndrome after receiving the vaccine; 25 died.  https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-apr-27-sci-swine-history27-story.html

[teddyv]

2 hours ago, Slug1 said:

As time continues, we'll see whether or not any discernment was exercised.

Edit: Let me add, people NEED to be heard. Denying people the right to be heard, those who suffer from negative effects of the jab they received, is a travesty.

Ever heard of Eric Clapton? He got heard, or at least those seeking... heard. So many are suffering and they are being denied "their" truth because they aren't heard.

Find the testimonies on the internet but to do so, you MUST use media that does not censor, that is not part of the propaganda machine.

Then show us!

Eric Clapton is not an authoritative source on vaccines. Good musician. Bit of a bigot.