Will the Lord find faith upon the earth?

[Mike Mclees]

This subject disappeared  while posting an answer. Still I find it a good post to study. There are always those who wish to divide the modern day free world church. First i want to ask who is the Lord referring to? Is it the world at large, Those who are save and those who are not. Is He addressing certain affiliations or faith groups, meaning favorites. The quest ion comes up at times, who is the right church, and should i leave my present church to go to another because and  accept its peculiar doctrines and beliefs. So who was Jesus speaking of? 

Edited July 31, 2021 by Mike Mclees

[missmuffet]

There are humans are this earth who are saved and will spend eternity in heaven. 

[Tammy Roesch]

2 hours ago, Mike Mclees said:

This subject disappeared  while posting an answer. Still I find it a good post to study. There are always those who wish to divide the modern day free world church. First i want to ask who is the Lord referring to? Is it the world at large, Those who are save and those who are not. Is He addressing certain affiliations or faith groups, meaning favorites. The quest ion comes up at times who is the right and should i go to should i leave my present church to go to another because and  accept its peculiar doctrines and beliefs. So who was Jesus speaking of? 

Good question, Mike :).

I don't believe Jesus would have been asking if there would be FAITH in those of the WORLD when He comes, as those in the WORLD have no FAITH in God or the Bible (if they did, their faith would lead them OUT of the world).  I believe when He asked if He would find FAITH when He returns, He was referring to those who claim to be Christians.  

[Alive]

1 minute ago, Tammy Roesch said:

Good question, Mike :).

I don't believe Jesus would have been asking if there would be FAITH in those of the WORLD when He comes, as those in the WORLD have no FAITH in God or the Bible (if they did, their faith would lead them OUT of the world).  I believe when He asked if He would find FAITH when He returns, He was referring to those who claim to be Christians.  

If, as you say, He is referring to those who claim to be christians, then what of those present who are indeed christians?

Faith?

[Tammy Roesch]

3 minutes ago, Alive said:

If, as you say, He is referring to those who claim to be christians, then what of those present who are indeed christians?

Faith?

If we are truly Christians, we have nothing to worry about. Jesus Himself said, Matthew 7:20  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.  

[Tammy Roesch]

1 minute ago, Josheb said:

Context. 

He was speaking to Jews. He was speaking about conditions his audience would experience. There were no Christians at that time. Yes, the principles underlying his words are applicable to all Christians in all places at all times but that is not specifically what Jesus was talking about. At best your last few words should include a "would"....... He was referring to those who would claim to be Christians. 

Yes, I should have just said BELIEVERS :).  There were no CHRISTIANS til the time of Christ.  Thank you for clarifying

[Alive]

2 minutes ago, Tammy Roesch said:

If we are truly Christians, we have nothing to worry about. Jesus Himself said, Matthew 7:20  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.  

The question is: will He find faith on the earth. You responded that you thought He meant those who "claim" to be christians.

If there are "truly" Christians present then there truly will be faith found.

Jesus didnt differentiate, He just proposed the question.

Regardless of "fruit" as you say doesn't Jesus know them that are His? So what does fruit, here, have to do with what Jesus proposed?

[Tammy Roesch]

4 minutes ago, Alive said:

The question is: will He find faith on the earth. You responded that you thought He meant those who "claim" to be christians.

If there are "truly" Christians present then there truly will be faith found.

Jesus didnt differentiate, He just proposed the question.

Regardless of "fruit" as you say doesn't Jesus know them that are His? So what does fruit, here, have to do with what Jesus proposed?

Of course, ALIVE   There will be FAITH found amongst the Christians when Jesus returns :)....but it's not going to be like ALOT of FAITHFUL people (obviously there won't be any FAITH found amongst the non-Christians).  As in the days of NOAH, there were only 8 who came out of the Ark....so in the last days, the number of TRUE BELIEVERS is going to be VERY SMALL compared to all the people in the world.

Edited July 31, 2021 by Tammy Roesch

[johnthebaptist]

4 hours ago, Mike Mclees said:

This subject disappeared  while posting an answer. Still I find it a good post to study. There are always those who wish to divide the modern day free world church. First i want to ask who is the Lord referring to? Is it the world at large, Those who are save and those who are not. Is He addressing certain affiliations or faith groups, meaning favorites. The quest ion comes up at times who is the right and should i go to should i leave my present church to go to another because and  accept its peculiar doctrines and beliefs. So who was Jesus speaking of? 

I don't think you will find a perfect church. Maybe one should try to do the Lord's will, in which case he will be setting an example for his church.

[TheBlade]

I"in the Greek text the use of the definite article with the word "faith" implies that He is speaking of the particular kind of faith illustrated by the parable. The implication is that such faith will be rare."