David1701 Posted August 23, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,731 Content Per Day: 3.51 Reputation: 3,524 Days Won: 12 Joined: 11/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 23, 2021 28 minutes ago, Leonardo Von said: Correct. And he will manifest very soon. He manifested a long, long time ago! The anti-Christ is the office of Pope, one of whose titles is Vicar of Christ, which means "Instead of Christ", which means "anti-Christ" (anti means "instead of", not only "against"). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamL Posted August 23, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5,159 Content Per Day: 1.48 Reputation: 2,568 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/01/1950 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/17/2021 at 3:03 PM, Michael37 said: Don't forget about the Anomos or Lawless One, who is an opponent of the Messiah and gets consumed by the breath of His mouth and destroyed with the brightness of His coming. Nope, haven't forgotten about that antichrist at all. On 8/17/2021 at 4:41 PM, HAZARD said: The Antichrist will be a future mortal man, nothing more. That he will be a mortal man is clear from (Rev. 13:18). That he will be a mortal man is also clear from the fact that he will be "SLAIN" by Christ at His second advent (Dan. 7:11; Isa. 11:4; 2 Thess. 2:7-8). If Christ is going to slay him at the second advent, then he must be a mortal man at that time. This proves that he will not be a resurrected immortal man from the dead, or indwelt by Satan. So many of the usual misconceptions here, traditions of men. To continue from my blog article: To sum up: there is no The (one-man) Antichrist. Rather, there are a number of End Times antichrists, including 1) the Son of Perdition/Lawless One, 2) the Beast, 3) the False Prophet, 4) the Mouth of the Beast = Little Horn, and 5) Gog. Thus there are at minimum five major end times antichrists, without even mentioning the greatest antichrist of them all, Satan. They are all anti/against Christ, according to Johnʼs definition: ones that deny and oppose the exclusivity of Jesus being the only Christ/Messiah of God. [If you want to understand why the Son of Perdition is AN antichrist but not The Antichrist (there is no such man), nor the Beast, read my blog “The Son of Perdition is a Patsy.”] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted August 23, 2021 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 245 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 7,036 Content Per Day: 3.28 Reputation: 4,947 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted August 23, 2021 3 hours ago, WilliamL said: If you want to understand why the Son of Perdition is AN antichrist but not The Antichrist (there is no such man), nor the Beast, read my blog . . . A common fallacy of logic is the "appeal to authority". In the above case the writer assumes that because he has a blog outlining his beliefs this makes him an authority whose comments are to be understood as unequivocally correct. Pro 18:17 The first one to plead his cause seems right, Until his neighbor comes and examines him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Von Posted August 24, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 1,265 Topics Per Day: 0.44 Content Count: 2,637 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 760 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/06/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/04/1972 Share Posted August 24, 2021 11 hours ago, David1701 said: (anti means "instead of", not only "against"). With this I agree and add: antichrist is someone that will try to occupy the place of Christ in the life of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David1701 Posted August 24, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,731 Content Per Day: 3.51 Reputation: 3,524 Days Won: 12 Joined: 11/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 24, 2021 15 hours ago, Leonardo Von said: With this I agree and add: antichrist is someone that will try to occupy the place of Christ in the life of people. The pope has been doing this since about the 5th or 6th C. A.D.. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Von Posted August 24, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 1,265 Topics Per Day: 0.44 Content Count: 2,637 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 760 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/06/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/04/1972 Share Posted August 24, 2021 17 minutes ago, David1701 said: The pope has been doing this since about the 5th or 6th C. A.D.. Yes, but the final fulfillment of this prophecy will take place in seventieth week of Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted August 24, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 9,606 Content Per Day: 3.93 Reputation: 7,798 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, Leonardo Von said: Yes, but the final fulfillment of this prophecy will take place in seventieth week of Daniel Already fulfilled and over with. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David1701 Posted August 24, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,731 Content Per Day: 3.51 Reputation: 3,524 Days Won: 12 Joined: 11/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Leonardo Von said: Yes, but the final fulfillment of this prophecy will take place in seventieth week of Daniel Here are the reasons given in Daniel 9:24, for the 490 years (Daniel's 70 weeks, using the prophetic year for a day principle) 1. to finish the transgression 2. to make an end of sins 3. to make reconciliation for iniquity 4. to bring in everlasting righteousness 5. to seal up vision and prophecy 6. to anoint the most Holy These all refer to the time of the Messiah (i.e. the Lord Jesus Christ). We are not waiting for some future fulfilment - it's already been done! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Von Posted August 24, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 1,265 Topics Per Day: 0.44 Content Count: 2,637 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 760 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/06/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/04/1972 Share Posted August 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, David1701 said: Here are the reasons given in Daniel 9:24, for the 490 years (Daniel's 70 weeks, using the prophetic year for a day principle) 1. to finish the transgression 2. to make an end of sins 3. to make reconciliation for iniquity 4. to bring in everlasting righteousness 5. to seal up vision and prophecy 6. to anoint the most Holy These all refer to the time of the Messiah (i.e. the Lord Jesus Christ). We are not waiting for some future fulfilment - it's already been done! The transgressions and sins are all over the world. The vision and prophecy weren't all sealed up: there are things to be fulfilled. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David1701 Posted August 24, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,731 Content Per Day: 3.51 Reputation: 3,524 Days Won: 12 Joined: 11/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Leonardo Von said: The transgressions and sins are all over the world. Which the cross has dealt with. Quote The vision and prophecy weren't all sealed up: there are things to be fulfilled. It's talking about Daniel's vision and that prophecy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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