Slaves to righteousness…..

[Not me]

8 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

You really are making my life less boring and that is something I do not need to tell you why.

But is there is one thing I do not want in life is something that we all need to have to protect ourselves from invasive inquiries, and that can be done in various environments and it's necessary to be so as not to disclose things about ourselves and some times to avoid self incrimination. 

But this cannot work out in front of a Justice. 

Well, hopefully that’s a good thing…

 

Be blessed in your relationship with our Lord, Not me 

[Your closest friendnt]

4 minutes ago, Not me said:

Well, hopefully that’s a good thing…

 

Be blessed in your relationship with our Lord, Not me 

I am not sure what you mean in "your relationship with our Lord...".

And why would that be a good thing? 

Edited October 31, 2021 by Your closest friendnt

[Your closest friendnt]

@Not me There is something that is not easily understood and yet many have come along to say that they understand what we read in Paul's epistolary when he said the infamous "we died with Christ when Jesus Christ died on the Cross...and we raised with Christ when he was raised from the dead", hope that I correctly recited Paul's saying.  

The Eunuch asked Philip to explain to him what the prophet Esaias wrote in chapter 53: 

And Philip answered to him that this prophetic statement of Esaias has recently been fulfilled. 

From Paul's sayings we can not help to rejoice in the thought if what Paul has said if it was in the prophetic to actually die with Jesus and raised from the dead with Jesus. Being in the thoughts and being preoccupied with my quest to find out if this has happened actually to someone to have died with Jesus and to have been raised with Jesus. By now I hope that I do not need to tell you that this have actually happened because you already must be wondering if the thieves who died together with Jesus are the ones that I am thinking about..we know that the one who made the good comments about Jesus and the other one who also died with Jesus, because not one but two died with Jesus. 

The first part we got it right we have the two people who died with Jesus Christ  

And now how about the second part to be raised with Jesus Christ. Did the prophet Esaias had to say something about that? Did he foretold that Jesus Christ did not raised alone? 

And it is in the prophetic that Jesus Christ was not raised alone, we would like to know if the two thieves who died with him they were also raised with him. 

Contemplating and living in the suspense of some answer, that we may have someone who actually can say that I died with Jesus Christ and I have raised with Jesus Christ, and perhaps not only one but even more than one person who could say that. 

[Not me]

5 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

I am not sure what you mean in "your relationship with our Lord...".

And why would that be a good thing? 

Just wishing you a blessing with your relationship with Jesus…

And I thought hoping it was a good thing was better then the alternative….

4 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

@Not me There is something that is not easily understood and yet many have come along to say that they understand what we read in Paul's epistolary when he said the infamous "we died with Christ when Jesus Christ died on the Cross...and we raised with Christ when he was raised from the dead", hope that I correctly recited Paul's saying.  

The Eunuch asked Philip to explain to him what the prophet Esaias wrote in chapter 53: 

And Philip answered to him that this prophetic statement of Esaias has recently been fulfilled. 

From Paul's sayings we can not help to rejoice in the thought if what Paul has said if it was in the prophetic to actually die with Jesus and raised from the dead with Jesus. Being in the thoughts and being preoccupied with my quest to find out if this has happened actually to someone to have died with Jesus and to have been raised with Jesus. By now I hope that I do not need to tell you that this have actually happened because you already must be wondering if the thieves who died together with Jesus are the ones that I am thinking about..we know that the one who made the good comments about Jesus and the other one who also died with Jesus, because not one but two died with Jesus. 

The first part we got it right we have the two people who died with Jesus Christ  

And now how about the second part to be raised with Jesus Christ. Did the prophet Esaias had to say something about that? Did he foretold that Jesus Christ did not raised alone? 

And it is in the prophetic that Jesus Christ was not raised alone, we would like to know if the two thieves who died with him they were also raised with him. 

Contemplating and living in the suspense of some answer, that we may have someone who actually can say that I died with Jesus Christ and I have raised with Jesus Christ, and perhaps not only one but even more than one person who could say that. 

You are correct…

This, knowing what it means to be dead in Christ, if I can be so bold and say, it is almost the all of the understanding of what our salvation in Christ consists of….

For to continue to sound so full of myself, for about 20 years ago, when I screamed out to the Lord ‘God the only way I am going to be able to stop sinning is if I actually die’ … Then in the course of about 3 days God ministered to my heart that this death of myself, that I saw was the only way for me to stop sinning, was actually what it meant to be dead in Christ… For when Christ died on the cross I literally died with Him…

After this seeing that I was taken to death with Christ on the cross, my relationship with Him exploded, my rest in Him exploded, my joy, peace you name it it so exploded I wanted to jump up and down and yell and shout to everybody that we, all of us that call on the name of Christ have died and been set free from us… But alas it was not to be, for just like I had to be brought to the place where I was actually willing to die to stop from sinning… This is the place that we all need to be brought to, to this place where we see from the heart our need of death, but once it is, the joy of one’s salvation never leaves…

Oh, one still sins, but now it becomes a work of; to the degree one reckons themselves dead to sin, to that degree does one become set free from  sin… This is the meaning of the scripture, ‘to whom you present yourself, to him you are servants of’… 

It might help with the seeing, to ask yourself this question; 

How can I be guaranteed to never ever sin, from this moment going forward, forever? 

There is but one way, and that way is, if you were to fall down dead right this instant… For if you were to fall down dead, all the power of the world the flesh and the devil would be powerless to make you sin, for you were dead and incapable of responding, for you had died, so therefore were you experiencing the ‘he that has died is free from sin’

Don't misunderstand me, sin stays very much alive, and will constantly be trying to pull you over to once again be its slave… But to the degree you maintain your faith in your death in Christ to that degree will you walk in newness of life…

Be so blessed as you read these words and may God quicken them to the heart if indeed there is truth in them…

Once again be blessed in your relationship with Jesus and may he bless you and all that call on His  name with all good things…

 

A fellow follower of His, Not me 

Edited October 31, 2021 by Not me
Cleaned it up and hopefully made it easier to understand..

[Your closest friendnt]

5 hours ago, Not me said:

Just wishing you a blessing with your relationship with Jesus…

And I thought hoping it was a good thing was better then the alternative….

You are correct…

This, knowing what it means to be dead in Christ, if I can be so bold and say, it is almost the all of the understanding of what our salvation in Christ consists of….

For to continue to sound so full of myself, for about 20 years ago, when I screamed out to the Lord ‘God the only way I am going to be able to stop sinning is if I actually die’ … Then in the course of about 3 days God ministered to my heart that this death of myself, that I saw was the only way for me to stop sinning, was actually what it meant to be dead in Christ… For when Christ died on the cross I literally died with Him…

After this seeing that I was taken to death with Christ on the cross, my relationship with Him exploded, my rest in Him exploded, my joy, peace you name it it so exploded I wanted to jump up and down and yell and shout to everybody that we, all of us that call on the name of Christ have died and been set free from us… But alas it was not to be, for just like I had to be brought to the place where I was actually willing to die to stop from sinning… This is the place that we all need to be brought to, to this place where we see from the heart our need of death, but once it is, the joy of one’s salvation never leaves…

Oh, one still sins, but now it becomes a work of; to the degree one reckons themselves dead to sin, to that degree does one become set free from  sin… This is the meaning of the scripture, ‘to whom you present yourself, to him you are servants of’… 

It might help with the seeing, to ask yourself this question; 

How can I be guaranteed to never ever sin, from this moment going forward, forever? 

There is but one way, and that way is, if you were to fall down dead right this instant… For if you were to fall down dead, all the power of the world the flesh and the devil would be powerless to make you sin, for you were dead and incapable of responding, for you had died, so therefore were you experiencing the ‘he that has died is free from sin’

Don't misunderstand me, sin stays very much alive, and will constantly be trying to pull you over to once again be its slave… But to the degree you maintain your faith in your death in Christ to that degree will you walk in newness of life…

Be so blessed as you read these words and may God quicken them to the heart if indeed there is truth in them…

Once again be blessed in your relationship with Jesus and may he bless you and all that call on His  name with all good things…

 

A fellow follower of His, Not me 

 I do not think that you believe what you are saying that you literally died with Jesus and these are the reasons why.

We have the witness of the disciples of Jesus Christ and they testify that only the two thieves died with him one on his left and the other on his right. 

And that what they published and that what they preached and that is that Jesus Christ died on the Cross for the forgiveness of our sins, not only for the thief who said good things about him but also for the thief who challenge him to revealed himself...by proving to everyone who he is. 

Jesus Christ died alone, and the moment he died he was left alone and at the moment of his death he was alone and without the fellowship of the Heavenly Father.

 

Edited October 31, 2021 by Your closest friendnt

[Not me]

55 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

 I do not think that you believe what you are saying that you literally died with Jesus and these are the reasons why.

We have the witness of the disciples of Jesus Christ and they testify that only the two thieves died with him one on his left and the other on his right. 

And that what they published and that what they preached and that is that Jesus Christ died on the Cross for the forgiveness of our sins, not only for the thief who said good things about him but also for the thief who challenge him to revealed himself...by proving to everyone who he is. 

Jesus Christ died alone, and the moment he died he was left alone and at the moment of his death he was alone and without the fellowship of the Heavenly Father.

 

Scripture speaks to our death in Christ….

It is to this truth, I am speaking and bringing forth…

Be blessed in the experiencing of this truth…

 

A fellow believer, Not me 

Edit;

Hi, I think your stumbling over the word ‘literally’, when I used it, I meant to portray very really and very truly when Christ died He took me to death with Him so His death became mine..

It is faith in this truth that will cause one to walk in newness of life…

Hope it helps..

In the faith, Not me 

Edited October 31, 2021 by Not me

[Your closest friendnt]

20 minutes ago, Not me said:

Scripture speaks to our death in Christ….

It is to this truth, I am speaking and bringing forth…

Be blessed in the experiencing of this truth…

 

A fellow believer, Not me 

Jesus Christ died to give us Life and that Life is Eternal Life with him, not only Life with him while we live, but also Life with him after we died, at the moment we die we continue to be in him, the physical death does not separates us from him. He is with us when we live and we are with him where He is at death's time. 

Jesus Christ went to the place of the dead so we do not go there at the time of our death.

This is what the disciples teach and believe. 

No we did not died with him, this is not possible because we were not yet borned at the time he died. 

Why do you have to say that you literally died with him? 

[angels4u]

When Jesus Christ died on the cross,you were on His mind!

God gives us all a free will to decide if we accept Him or not, but one thing is for sure ,since He died for everybody and knows everything,you were on His mind when he died for all the sins of mankind. This was the Fathers plan all along ,He would redeem His children from the slavery of sin through the death of His Son ( How much the Father loves us )

This article explains it very well..

I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. 
(Gal 2:20 NKJV)

You and I, who know Jesus Christ, have been crucified with Him. That person we were— that man of nothing but sin and guilt, nothing but alienation and separation—died on the cross with Jesus Christ when we were granted the faith to believe by the grace of God our Father. Here is the simple truth of the believer’s life: “It is no longer I who live.” It is no longer just I in this life. The life that I had, died on the cross. The life I live now is no longer me living—so much better, it is Christ who dwells in me.

This is a mystery; this is a great truth unveiled at last by the words of the Apostle. “Christ lives in me.” Love to meditate on that. Be more encouraged and come to greater wisdom and greater revelation, apprehending the extent of Christ’s influence on the believer. The Creator of the universe, the Redeemer of men’s souls, lives in me!

“And the life that I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God.” We get up each morning trusting in Him. We face the things that confront us, trusting in Him. We go through the obvious and the perplexing and the unexpected, the routine and the impossible, all the while, trusting in Him. The Son of God, who loved us and gave Himself for our lives grows and develops us so that we might trust him daily and work unto righteousness by our knowledge of him.

The intimacy of these truths are staggering, mind-renewing, and faith-building. Christ lives in and through us. What riches of grace that is! It defies imagination that God would come to live in and through a person like any of the sons of Adam! Words to describe our joy for our position in Christ slip and slide from our grasp. There is nothing like our relationship with Christ save for the Godhead itself: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Pastor Bob Hoekstra

 

 

[Your closest friendnt]

11 minutes ago, angels4u said:

When Jesus Christ died on the cross,you were on His mind!

God gives us all a free will to decide if we accept Him or not, but one thing is for sure ,since He died for everybody and knows everything,you were on His mind when he died for all the sins of mankind. This was the Fathers plan all along ,He would redeem His children from the slavery of sin through the death of His Son ( How much the Father loves us )

This article explains it very well..

I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. 
(Gal 2:20 NKJV)

You and I, who know Jesus Christ, have been crucified with Him. That person we were— that man of nothing but sin and guilt, nothing but alienation and separation—died on the cross with Jesus Christ when we were granted the faith to believe by the grace of God our Father. Here is the simple truth of the believer’s life: “It is no longer I who live.” It is no longer just I in this life. The life that I had, died on the cross. The life I live now is no longer me living—so much better, it is Christ who dwells in me.

This is a mystery; this is a great truth unveiled at last by the words of the Apostle. “Christ lives in me.” Love to meditate on that. Be more encouraged and come to greater wisdom and greater revelation, apprehending the extent of Christ’s influence on the believer. The Creator of the universe, the Redeemer of men’s souls, lives in me!

“And the life that I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God.” We get up each morning trusting in Him. We face the things that confront us, trusting in Him. We go through the obvious and the perplexing and the unexpected, the routine and the impossible, all the while, trusting in Him. The Son of God, who loved us and gave Himself for our lives grows and develops us so that we might trust him daily and work unto righteousness by our knowledge of him.

The intimacy of these truths are staggering, mind-renewing, and faith-building. Christ lives in and through us. What riches of grace that is! It defies imagination that God would come to live in and through a person like any of the sons of Adam! Words to describe our joy for our position in Christ slip and slide from our grasp. There is nothing like our relationship with Christ save for the Godhead itself: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Pastor Bob Hoekstra

 

 

This is truth and we cannot denied that Paul said those things about himself and about himself and he did not say that at the road to Damascus and he did not say that at the time Barnabas was his teacher and his Partner in the Gospel and he did not say that when he was the apostle of the churches in Asia during his affiliation with them to go on the missions as they had decided. 

Paul said that at some time later in his life, but not before he realized that he was the apostle of Jesus Christ and he began to realise that his life is hidden in Him and he does not know what will happen to him in the tomorrows but Jesus Christ did and he will let him know when the time is right. 

So he had agree to follow and abide in the will of Jesus during his life, he decided to dedicate the rest of his life and his time to Jesus Christ and the Gospel...

[Not me]

@Your closest friendnt

Your relationship with Christ is that which is of value… If the peace of Christ in your heart doesn’t bear witness to something, go with that peace, for that is the obedience required out of you at that time…

Be blessed as the peace of Christ in your heart directs you into all truth….

A fellow believer, Not me