Can Believers have Demons?

[Joshua-777]

This is an area that I believe the Lord is highlighting. Recently we have been seeing many come to the Lord out of new age, sexual perversion, etc and those areas of sin become open doors for demons. In the bible, they cast out demons. It was a common practice in the Gospels and the book of acts. As these people come to Jesus, they often need deliverance.

[missmuffet]

A born again Christian can not have demons because they are indwelt with the Holy Spirit.

[Joshua-777]

On 9/26/2022 at 9:46 AM, missmuffet said:

A born again Christian can not have demons because they are indwelt with the Holy Spirit.

In the bible, it was a practice in the church to cast them out.  If the church neglects this, then the demons stay. God can  and does deliver people in His sovereignty, but many times believers are bound up by the enemy because they have a demon attached to their life.
 

^{Acts 5:16} Also a multitude gathered from the surrounding cities to Jerusalem, bringing sick people and those who were tormented by unclean spirits, and they were all healed.

When I came to Jesus, I suffered 6 years from demonic nightmares, things touching me, addictions, depression and suicidal thoughts. I couldn't break free. I went to pastors and they would either not know what to do or tell me I couldn't have a demon. I was delivered when I surrendered everything, turned from sin and got filled with the fire of God 13 years ago and I've been on fire ever since.
 

Edited September 27, 2022 by Joshua-777

[missmuffet]

5 minutes ago, Joshua-777 said:

In the bible, it was a practice in the church to cast them out.  If the church neglects this, then the demons stay. God can  and does deliver people in His sovereignty, but many times believers are bound up by the enemy because they have a demon attached to their life.
 

^{Acts 5:16} Also a multitude gathered from the surrounding cities to Jerusalem, bringing sick people and those who were tormented by unclean spirits, and they were all healed.

When I came to Jesus, I suffered 6 years from demonic nightmares, things touching me, addictions, depression and suicidal thoughts. I couldn't break free. I went to pastors and they would either not know what to do or tell me I couldn't have a demon. I was delivered when I surrendered everything, turned from sin and got filled with the fire of God 13 years ago and I've been on fire ever since.
 

The Holy Spirit and demons do not mix. If a person genuinely has the Holy Spirit it is impossible for them to have a demon.

[Jedi4Yahweh]

On 11/22/2021 at 1:06 PM, Joshua-777 said:

This is an area that I believe the Lord is highlighting. Recently we have been seeing many come to the Lord out of new age, sexual perversion, etc and those areas of sin become open doors for demons. In the bible, they cast out demons. It was a common practice in the Gospels and the book of acts. As these people come to Jesus, they often need deliverance.

Agreed...believers can have demonic strongholds in their life that requires deliverance in many cases.  There are many believers that are in bondage to demonic addictions such as: pornography, sexual additions, drugs, alcoholism, etc...    I believe when someone truly believes they are set free at the moment, but over time they open doors to allow these demonic strongholds back into their life and are bound again by the enemy and these strongholds become even more stronger than before they were set free.

"When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none. "Then he says, 'I will return to my house from which I came.' And when he comes, he finds [it] empty, swept, and put in order. "Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last [state] of that man is worse than the first. So shall it also be with this wicked generation." - Mat 12:43-45 

Edited October 26, 2022 by Jedi4Yahweh

[angels4u]

On 9/27/2022 at 8:37 PM, Joshua-777 said:

In the bible, it was a practice in the church to cast them out.  If the church neglects this, then the demons stay. God can  and does deliver people in His sovereignty, but many times believers are bound up by the enemy because they have a demon attached to their life.
 

^{Acts 5:16} Also a multitude gathered from the surrounding cities to Jerusalem, bringing sick people and those who were tormented by unclean spirits, and they were all healed.

When I came to Jesus, I suffered 6 years from demonic nightmares, things touching me, addictions, depression and suicidal thoughts. I couldn't break free. I went to pastors and they would either not know what to do or tell me I couldn't have a demon. I was delivered when I surrendered everything, turned from sin and got filled with the fire of God 13 years ago and I've been on fire ever since.
 

Hi Joshua,

Those days were before Jesus died and was resurrected, when Pentecost came,people who accepted Jesus as their Savior were filled and sealed with the Holy Spirit,the people who came to Jesus before Pentecost were not set free through the Holy Spirit,when God sets us free we're free indeed. I do believe believers can be oppressed but not possessed.

[missmuffet]

44 minutes ago, angels4u said:

Hi Joshua,

Those days were before Jesus died and was resurrected, when Pentecost came,people who accepted Jesus as their Savior were filled and sealed with the Holy Spirit,the people who came to Jesus before Pentecost were not set free through the Holy Spirit,when God sets us free we're free indeed. I do believe believers can be oppressed but not possessed.

I agree angels. We as believers can be harrassed by Satan and his demons but not possessed. 

[other one]

2 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

I agree angels. We as believers can be harrassed by Satan and his demons but not possessed. 

That's the rub with some people Muffet.   They don't seem to understand the difference in harassed or have a demon attached to them and full possession.     I can assure you that if you are a born again Christian there is a dark force who's job title is to move things in your way and do all the demonic world can do to keep you from growing and helping others.

If there is any sin left in your life they will attach onto that and are very hard to get loose from.   They can't make you do things but they can constantly put things in your way.

[missmuffet]

Just now, other one said:

That's the rub with some people Muffet.   They don't seem to understand the difference in harassed or have a demon attached to them and full possession.     I can assure you that if you are a born again Christian there is a dark force who's job title is to move things in your way and do all the demonic world can do to keep you from growing and helping others.

If there is any sin left in your life they will attach onto that and are very hard to get loose from.   They can't make you do things but they can constantly put things in your way.

Yes, spiritual warfare. There is a dark battle going all around us that we can't see. Satan studies us and knows all of our weaknesses. He sure can harrass us on those issues. 

[Joshua-777]

3 hours ago, angels4u said:

Hi Joshua,

Those days were before Jesus died and was resurrected, when Pentecost came,people who accepted Jesus as their Savior were filled and sealed with the Holy Spirit,the people who came to Jesus before Pentecost were not set free through the Holy Spirit,when God sets us free we're free indeed. I do believe believers can be oppressed but not possessed.

Can you give me a verse that makes that distinction? I can see multitudes coming to the Church to get set free acts 5:16, articles of Paul's clothing handed out to cast out demons Acts 19:12 along of many other examples in the book of Acts. What we see in Acts is that deliverance was a common practice through out. Today, many believers just say a prayer and go to church but never get those things dealt with. Because the church has neglected this ministry, many people play with witchcraft, sexual sin, etc and they are still in bondage after they put faith in Jesus.

I can honestly say I had demons for the first 6 years of my christian life and no one was able to help because of ignorance on this topic. I came out of witchcraft where I let demons speak through me and when I became a believer, those demons came against me for 6 years. I was tormented with suicidal thoughts, demonic dreams, feeling things touch me. I had faith in Jesus, I believed He died on the cross and rose from the dead, I trusted in Him for salvation, was I a believer for those 6 years or was I only saved when I was delivered? I personally experienced a demon inside me leaving my body by the power of the Holy Spirit.

For the last 12 years I've been seeing deliverance and especially the last 3 years I've seen a dramatic increase of deliverance, we also have been fasting and praying as a Church for a greater anointing and watching God answer our prayers. When I do deliverance, I make it clear that this means making Jesus King over their lives and if they don't know Him I have them receive Jesus as their Savior, if they don't want Jesus, then I will not cast out the demons. Them receiving Jesus, does not automatically make them free. After they pray and commit their lives to Jesus, repent of sins that opened the door, then I cast them out by the Holy Spirit.

Many believers have said the prayer but still have demons tormenting them and it's a lie from the pit of hell to say they can't have demons. It's sad because when believers who love God experience freedom, it's a beautiful thing and they often become some of the most on fire believers you'll meet.

Now, in the bible it was common practice. 1/3rd of Jesus ministry was casting out demons, through out the book of acts they cast out demons, where is that in the average church today? If casting out demons was necessary for Jesus, for the disciples, is it necessary for us today>
 

Edited October 26, 2022 by Joshua-777