Separation of Body and Soul is Unbiblical.

[Alive]

7 minutes ago, AandW_Rootbeer said:

The Body or Person is Perishable, the Soul is Eternal.   If we are given a New Heavenly Body, that means the old body will be separated from the Soul for at least that one purpose.   On a Spiritual level, our bodies could never be allowed into the Kingdom of Heaven like our Soul can be.   Somewhere along this line, a Separation [must] take place.

Somewhere in there is the need to grasp the space-time continuum and how God relates to it.

:-)

[AandW_Rootbeer]

1 hour ago, Alive said:

Somewhere in there is the need to grasp the space-time continuum and how God relates to it.

:-)

Agreed!

[Your closest friendnt]

57 minutes ago, AandW_Rootbeer said:

Agreed!

Extraterrestrial 

[Your closest friendnt]

10 hours ago, AandW_Rootbeer said:

The Body or Person is Perishable, the Soul is Eternal.   If we are given a New Heavenly Body, that means the old body will be separated from the Soul for at least that one purpose.   On a Spiritual level, our bodies could never be allowed into the Kingdom of Heaven like our Soul can be.   Somewhere along this line, a Separation [must] take place.

The soul does not and cannot remain in a dead body.

This is our good fortune. 

When one's leg is amputated his soul remains intact, is not something physical that it can be cut with a knife. 

Jesus Christ could not have the identification marksss of his ordeal if he was not raised in his body before it begins to decay.

His body it was glorious not only after his was raised from the dead, his body in the same way it was glorious before he died. 

[Scott Free]

37 minutes ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

You stated: "The idea of an immortal soul is not a Hebrew concept but comes from Platonic philosophy"

Seriously,  shouldn't you be examining the scriptures for the answer? Just saying.

If I thought merely quoting scripture translations made me an expert on everything I would be considered a silly person. I wouldn't want to disrespect those with scholarships. This is a job for someone well versed in etymology.

Here is are some scriptures for your consideration.

"Now our knowledge is partial and incomplete, and even the gift of prophecy reveals only part of the whole picture!" I Corinthians 13:9

"And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know." 1 Corinthians 8:2

"Let no one deceive himself. If any of you thinks he is wise in this age, he should become foolish, so that he may become wise." 1 Corinthians 3:18

 

Edited December 19, 2021 by Scott Free
Spelling correction

[Scott Free]

Just now, Walter Goraj jr said:

 Sorry, just have to disagree with you. While I certainly learn from and respect the work of scholars,  the only source of truth that we can always  trust is God's Word. It comes before everything else, especially regarding spiritual matters. 

Your devotion is beautiful. It is important to understand the level of bias like selection, anchoring, in-group and confirmation. Being aware that a meaning we are reading into the Bible might be subjective and prone to arguments. A similar sentiment is spoken of by Timothy.

"Remind them of these things, and solemnly exhort them in the presence of God not to dispute about words, which is useless and leads to the ruin of the listeners." 2 Timothy 2:14

 

[AandW_Rootbeer]

7 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

The soul does not and cannot remain in a dead body.

This is our good fortune. 

When one's leg is amputated his soul remains intact, is not something physical that it can be cut with a knife. 

Jesus Christ could not have the identification marksss of his ordeal if he was not raised in his body before it begins to decay.

His body it was glorious not only after his was raised from the dead, his body in the same way it was glorious before he died. 

In the Gospel of John, Christ said, God is a SPIRIT and we must worship God in Spirit and in Truth.

 

In the first Chapter of the Gospel of John, it explains that Christ is the WORD [that became] flesh...so before this, the WORD is Spirit.

 

This means the flesh body of Christ is temporary.   As God, the WORD is able to show Himself, the scars He endured, the Stripes, the nail prints, the sword wound, etc., but the WORD is still God, which is SPIRIT!

 

So knowing that much makes it an easy deduction, outside of Paul's explanation, that our own bodies are temporary and only compliant to this Earth.

[AandW_Rootbeer]

4Behold, all souls are Mine. Like the soul of the father, like the soul of the son they are Mine; the soul that sins, it shall die.

 

20The soul that sins, it shall die;

 

23Do I desire the death of the wicked? says the Lord God. Is it not rather in his repenting of his ways that he may live?

[AandW_Rootbeer]

9 minutes ago, Josheb said:

There are person-less souls in eternity? 

Got scripture for that because I cannot find a single example of a bodiless soul in the Bible? 

Can you clarify that because we are raised with a spiritual body AND Jesus' resurrected body had mass AND it was his body, AND it was allowed into the kingdom of heaven. 

Do you mean our sinful bodies of flesh and blood? 


 

I was discussing 2 Corinthians 5: 1For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

[AandW_Rootbeer]

2 minutes ago, Josheb said:

Or....

 

Our bodies are much more than we understand them to be.

The integration of dust and God's life-giving breath creates a living being, a creature created in God's own image that is then made into the image of Christ - and Christ's body did not see decay (ours will). Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, but Jesus used a slightly different term: flesh and bone. This would seem to indicate the body of flesh and blood was raised a body of flesh and bone, a spiritual body but one still possessing flesh and bone. I read nothing in scripture saying Jesus shed that body on the way or anywhere in heaven. 

 

For the record: when we speak of "person" or "personhood" we should remember our names are written down in the Lamb's book of life. We will never not have names. Every single one of us is different and God knows us by name. 

1For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

^

We have a new body!