Jerusalem Is The Whore, Mystery Babylon The Great Of Revelation Chapter 17

[truth7t7]

42 minutes ago, JoeCanada said:

But.... You say that the seven mountains are not really mountains, but they are hills. So in essence you are saying that the woman, the harlot,  who sits on many waters.... which are ?????? , (well according to you they must also represent hills),  rides the beast, which is not really a beast with seven heads and 10 horns, but is actually also hills, .................... but the beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth... wait, what? The beast that the woman rides is now an eighth.... hill?.... and is one of the seven...hills?

Here is the mind which has wisdom

Your claim is false and misrepresentation of the OP, the Wikipedia article identified "Jerusalem" as having Mounts/Mountains,this is the second time I have stated this to you in this thread

(Revelation) 17:9KJV
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

List of cities claimed to be built on seven hills - Wikipedia
Jerusalem, Israel: Jerusalem's seven hills are Mount Scopus, Mount Olivet and the Mount of Corruption (all three are peaks in a mountain ridge that lies east of the Old City), Mount Ophel, the original Mount Zion, the New Mount Zion and the hill on which the Antonia Fortress was built.

Edited February 3, 2022 by truth7t7

[truth7t7]

23 minutes ago, JoeCanada said:

Oh good.... I like "parallel teachings" in scripture.

In Rev 17:1-2,  John is shown "the harlot who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth committed acts of immorality"

Now I will not think that a person would attribute "many waters" that the woman sits as being bodies of water, like lakes or ponds. 

The "parallel" teachings of scripture depict "many waters" as nations.

Verse 1...the woman, the harlot, sits on many waters... nations, with whom the kings of the earth committed acts of immorality

Verse 3... the woman sits on a scarlet beast that has seven heads and ten horns.

Verse 7...the angel tells John that he will disclose the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her  which has seven heads and ten horns.

Verse 8... the beast has seven heads as told by the angel to John.

Verse 9: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits.

Hold on a minute.... verse 1 says that the woman sits on many waters....verse 3 says the woman sits on a beast that has seven heads....and here in verse 9, the woman sits on seven mountains.

Huh!.... could the many waters, (nations) and the beast with 7 heads and ten horns, and seven mountains all be related? 

But.... You say that the seven mountains are not really mountains, but they are hills. So in essence you are saying that the woman, the harlot,  who sits on many waters.... which are ?????? , (well according to you they must also represent hills),  rides the beast, which is not really a beast with seven heads and 10 horns, but is actually also hills, .................... but the beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth... wait, what? The beast that the woman rides is now an eighth.... hill?.... and is one of the seven...hills?

Here is the mind which has wisdom

Ezekiel 16:10-18KJV

10 I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers' skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk.

11 I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck.

12 And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head.

13 Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom.

14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord God.

15 But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.

16 And of thy garments thou didst take, and deckedst thy high places with divers colours, and playedst the harlot thereupon: the like things shall not come, neither shall it be so.

17 Thou hast also taken thy fair jewels of my gold and of my silver, which I had given thee, and madest to thyself images of men, and didst commit whoredom with them,

18 And tookest thy broidered garments, and coveredst them: and thou hast set mine oil and mine incense before them.

Edited February 3, 2022 by truth7t7

[truth7t7]

35 minutes ago, JoeCanada said:

Oh good.... I like "parallel teachings" in scripture.

In Rev 17:1-2,  John is shown "the harlot who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth committed acts of immorality"

Now I will not think that a person would attribute "many waters" that the woman sits as being bodies of water, like lakes or ponds. 

The "parallel" teachings of scripture depict "many waters" as nations.

Verse 1...the woman, the harlot, sits on many waters... nations, with whom the kings of the earth committed acts of immorality

Verse 3... the woman sits on a scarlet beast that has seven heads and ten horns.

Verse 7...the angel tells John that he will disclose the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her  which has seven heads and ten horns.

Verse 8... the beast has seven heads as told by the angel to John.

Verse 9: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits.

Hold on a minute.... verse 1 says that the woman sits on many waters....verse 3 says the woman sits on a beast that has seven heads....and here in verse 9, the woman sits on seven mountains.

Huh!.... could the many waters, (nations) and the beast with 7 heads and ten horns, and seven mountains all be related? 

But.... You say that the seven mountains are not really mountains, but they are hills. So in essence you are saying that the woman, the harlot,  who sits on many waters.... which are ?????? , (well according to you they must also represent hills),  rides the beast, which is not really a beast with seven heads and 10 horns, but is actually also hills, .................... but the beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth... wait, what? The beast that the woman rides is now an eighth.... hill?.... and is one of the seven...hills?

Here is the mind which has wisdom

The woman is the "Great City" Jerusalem, just as the OP shows

Revelation 11:8KJV

8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Revelation 17:18KJV

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

[JoeCanada]

34 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

the Wikipedia article identified "Jerusalem" as having Mounts/Mountains,

36 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

this is the second time I have stated this to you in this thread

 

Wikipedia??????????????

Now there's a "reliable" source for getting to the truth of scripture.... 

Good grief!

For someone who doesn't rely on any external sources... wow...Wikipedia!

ROFL 

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat things.... wrong is wrong.

Either you don't read.... or you don't understand. I have shown you, using scripture only, that the woman is not sitting ON Jerusalem as you claim.

She is sitting on SEVEN KINGDOMS!

She is the harlot, the great disgusting prostitute, the mother of all harlots, which means the greatest of all -(the mother of all bombs, the mother lode of gold), the mother of the abominations of the earth, the mother of all the unclean things of the earth, the mother of all immorality, the mother of all filth

31 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Revelation 17:18KJV

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

It is your opinion ONLY that you say the city is Jerusalem. Jerusalem does not, and has not and will not reign over the kings of the earth.

 

33 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

The woman is the "Great City" Jerusalem, just as the OP shows

Revelation 11:8KJV

8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

And where exactly was Jesus crucified?

Let me use scripture to answer that:

Jhn 19:17

They took Jesus, therefore, and He went out, bearing His own cross, to the place called the Place of a Skull, which is called in Hebrew, Golgotha.

That's right. It was Golgotha.

It was OUTSIDE of Jerusalem. Golgotha was outside the walls of Jerusalem. Golgotha was not part of the City of Jerusalem.

Maybe Wikipedia will say something different....

[Alive]

2 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

The scripture below represents the "Future" return of Jesus Christ in "Parallel" teachings

The Beast, Kings, and making war seen in Revelation 17:12-14 below is future unfulfilled

Jesus Is The Lord

Revelation 17:12KJV

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Revelation 19:19-20KJV

19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

I asked you "how you KNOW".

You see--there are more ideas on what Rev means than Carter has liver pills and Carter has lots of liver pills.

[truth7t7]

1 hour ago, JoeCanada said:

It is your opinion ONLY that you say the city is Jerusalem. Jerusalem does not, and has not and will not reign over the kings of the earth.

 

And where exactly was Jesus crucified?

Let me use scripture to answer that:

Jhn 19:17

They took Jesus, therefore, and He went out, bearing His own cross, to the place called the Place of a Skull, which is called in Hebrew, Golgotha.

That's right. It was Golgotha.

It was OUTSIDE of Jerusalem. Golgotha was outside the walls of Jerusalem. Golgotha was not part of the City of Jerusalem.

Maybe Wikipedia will say something different....

Not opinion but a biblical fact, the woman is the great city where Jesus Christ was crucified "Jerusalem" as you have been shown

The Antichrist will have his seat in Jerusalem, and he will rule the Kings of the earth as seen below, devils working miracles go forth to the Kings of the earth and whole world in deception, and also to deceive those who receive the mark and worship the image

Revelation 16:13-14KJV

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

Revelation 19:20KJV

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

 

Edited February 3, 2022 by truth7t7

[truth7t7]

1 hour ago, Alive said:

I asked you "how you KNOW".

You see--there are more ideas on what Rev means than Carter has liver pills and Carter has lots of liver pills.

"I Know" Because scripture below clearly teaches such, Gods words below are true, my response has clearly answered your question as seen below, it won't change

The scripture below represents the "Future" return of Jesus Christ in "Parallel" teachings

The Beast, Kings, and making war seen in Revelation 17:12-14 below is "Future" unfulfilled

Jesus Is The Lord

Revelation 17:12KJV

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Revelation 19:19-20KJV

19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Edited February 3, 2022 by truth7t7

[truth7t7]

1 hour ago, JoeCanada said:

And where exactly was Jesus crucified?

Let me use scripture to answer that:

Jhn 19:17

They took Jesus, therefore, and He went out, bearing His own cross, to the place called the Place of a Skull, which is called in Hebrew, Golgotha.

That's right. It was Golgotha.

It was OUTSIDE of Jerusalem. Golgotha was outside the walls of Jerusalem. Golgotha was not part of the City of Jerusalem.

Maybe Wikipedia will say something different....

Your grabbing at straw in a windstorm Joe

(The Great City) is Jerusalem, just as scripture below describes

Revelation 11:8KJV

8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

 

Edited February 3, 2022 by truth7t7

[JoeCanada]

50 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

You said: The Antichrist will have his seat in Jerusalem, and he will rule the Kings of the earth as seen (above)

Rev 16:14, above, says absolutely nothing about "ruling over kings of the earth"

Nothing! Nada! Squat!

Read what it says....  It's the spirits of devils which go forth unto the kings of the earth to GATHER THEM TO BATTLE.

How you can equate that to "rulership" is beyond me.

 

[JoeCanada]

35 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Your grabbing at straw in a windstorm Joe

(The Great City) is Jerusalem, just as scripture below describes

Revelation 11:8KJV

8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

 

Here we go....one more time.

Jesus was crucified outside the City of Jerusalem. 

Rev 11:8 DOES NOT IDENTIFY THE CITY.

You have no scriptural basis for making that claim. 

But.... you can believe whatever your little ol' heart wants to. You are wrong about this brother.