Is your State Ready for a National Disaster?

[nebula]

No there are other cities with problems and gather people to gamble and spend money on things we would not agree with, but like New Orleans.......  I don't think so.

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The funny thing with New Orleans is Mardis Gras.

The funny thing with Mardi Gras is that it began as a religious event - a final fling before the big 40-day fast.

Besides that being a profanity against the spirit of the fast in and of itself, it became a sin-fest party for anyone who wanted to engage in sin - with no association to fasting later.

To me, that makes a big difference.

[irishcowboy]

here is a tidbit to chew on for a bit...... sent to me by a friend.

In case you aren't familiar with how the city, state, and federal

governments are SUPPOSED to work, the chain of responsibility for the

protection of the citizens in New Orleans is:

1. The Mayor

2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security (a political appointee

of the Governor who reports to the Governor)

3. The Governor

4. The Head of Homeland Security

5. The President

What did each do?

1. The mayor, with 5 days advance notice, waited until 2 days before he

announced a mandatory evacuation (at the behest of the President). Then he

failed to provide transportation for those without transportation even

though he had hundreds of buses at his disposal. Finally, he had the gall

to publicly denounce President Bush for "sitting on his butt" and not doing

anything.

There is now a new manditory evacuation on going, and still having people not willing to leave. Who are they going to blame for their illnesses and deaths?

2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security failed to have any plan

for a contingency that has been discussed for 50 years. Then he blames the

Feds for not doing what he should have done. (So much! for political

appointees)

3. The Governor, despite a declaration of disaster by the President 2

DAYS BEFORE the storm hit, failed to take advantage of the offer of Federal

troops and aid. Until 2 DAYS AFTER the storm hit.

4. The Director of Homeland Security positioned assets in the area to be

ready when the Governor called for them

5. The President urged a mandatory evacuation, and even declared a

disaster State of Emergency, freeing up millions of dollars of federal

assistance, should the Governor decide to use it.

Oh and by the way, the levees that broke were the responsibility of the

local landowners and the local levee board to maintain, NOT THE FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT. However, Federal monies were provided for the city of New

Orleans to be used in the securing of the levees, over the past years, and

it was redirected and spent elsewhere.

The disaster in New Orleans is what you get after decades of corrupt

(democratic) government going all the way back to Huey Long, a government

that has openly courted the gay establishment and had offered its streets

to 15,000 of them for a parade (to occur the day after the hurricane hit).

So much for that parade!

[irishcowboy]

the first step in "homeland security" and "disaster preparedness" is ones self....

we have to use our woderful brains that God gave us....

when we know that trouble is coming our way, we are to move out of the way.

if you hear a tornado siren, and hear on the radio or tv that one is heading directly towards your house do you sit there and wait for it to arrive and welcome it with open arms, or do you head for the tornado shelter.....

if you are walking down a rail road track, and you hear the trains whistle, do you just ignore it or do you get out of the trains way???

when a storm is coming and it is already known to be a killer, do you say it will not kill me and just stay put? or do you move on?

listening to the news this morning, the polls seem to reflect that the people believe that the government is responsible for the storm, the death and destruction.

come on now.... none of these politicians are God, none of them are even sub-gods... they are just plain ol' humans....... no different then you or me...

who is to blame for the reaction time that happened? the people that stayed behind.... why? cause they had warnings......

what about when help was on its way down to their locations? again, the people, not the government, the people were shooting at the people trying to get in to help.... whats that all about?????

if you are broke down on the highway, and i slow down to pull over to help, and you start shooting at me, i am on my way, and you can fend for your self....

now..... there is a manditory evacuation still in order, and people are still wanting to stay.... come on, there is nothing there...... nothing but death and desease....

with talk of rebuilding....

sheesh....

give me a break...

is that place like Sodom, that Lot did not want to leave? and when forced out that his wife wanted to go back so bad that she gave up her entire being???

why would anyone want to go back to sin city?????

is man so blind to what is going on in this world that they do not see that the day is growning to a close???? are we so deceived that we think we have plenty of time to have our fun and then repent before the Lord comes for His children???

there is no time.... the storm is coming.... the biggest blackest meanest darkest storm is on its way.... we (man) are in the direct path of this storm.... and it will leave nothing but death and destruction as it passes.... there is only one way to make it through this on coming storm, and that is to be hand in hand with the Lord, to be in total communion with Him... to be His and no other to be one with the Lord......

modern day sodom has been devistated, and we should not rebuild it.. we should rescue those that are willing for we do not have time to rescue those that are going to fight us, all we can do for them is pray pray pray.....

share the Word, Spread the Gosple, Tell the World about Christ and the only way to the Father.......

mike

[Guest evedallas]

the funny thing about hearing people talk about all this advanced warning people had of Katrina is this: no one really knows what a hurricane is going to do. period. the meteorologists can predict and guess till they are blue in the face but the storm will do what the storm will do. two...maybe three days is really the closest to predicting a hurricane's path. i remember watching various news channels as katrina was crossing florida. every single one predicted she'd turn north and head into the panhandle. i didn't hear any real predictions of katrina hitting new orleans until friday. and, living in louisiana, i can tell you that even that close to landfall, the predictions are woefully....inaccurate. i remember when hurricane lili hit the center of louisiana a few years ago. prediction after prediction was made but she ended up going right up the center of the state. not hitting the mouth of the mississippi as predicted. we here in the southern center of the state were without power for days. some were without power and water for weeks. what good were the predictions then? two days may seem like a silly thing when the entire country can watch the hurricane on the nightly weather but in reality that's as close to any accuracy as you're gonna get because a hurricane can turn, wobble or any number of things. imagine evacuating thousands of people only to have thousands of others end up in the cross hairs because you jumped the gun.

as for the levees breaking, well the problems with the levees have been known for decades. the mayor did nothing to shore them up or fix them. the governor....well, the less i say about her, the better. plus, new orleans has slowly been sinking below sea level for years but people built there anyway. makes you wonder why people would build in such a place. like building on quick sand.

as for the slow federal response- the governor stalled them. there is no organization to the state or local government involved. the mayor called for forced evacuations a few days ago but the governor said no. i can also state that the louisiana national guard was waiting to get into new orleans as soon as katrina passed. i know this because i have a friend who is in the national guard. i also know the national guard went in to do search and rescue but had to radio back for weapons because of looters and snipers.

[other one]

as for the levees breaking, well the problems with the levees have been known for decades. the mayor did nothing to shore them up or fix them. the governor....well, the less i say about her, the better. plus, new orleans has slowly been sinking below sea level for years but people built there anyway.  makes you wonder why people would build in such a place.  like building on quick sand.

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Well, from pictures I have seen, the hurracane really didn't do that much damage to the New Orleans area, and more and more of the local people are speaking out that they heard explosions just before the 17th bridge levey started dumping water into the area. They are convinced that the levey was broken on purpose to save other parts of the city. I am finding it more odd that there was no help whatsoever for the lower income people and after they are shipped out to places the government is busy finding those poor people jobs there and do not expect them to return to the New Orleans area. Given the shortage of space in this city it will be very interesting to watch what is built back in the place of these lower income areas.

[Guest evedallas]

the levees were built to only withstand a cat 3 hurricane. the biggest problem for the levees is lake ponchatrain. the storm surge and rain caused a lot of pressure to be put on the levees. granted the lake is maybe 20 ft deep at its deepest point but it is huge. plus, i'm sure 140 mph winds can do some damage to a levee structure's integrity all by itself. do you know how many millions, if not billions, of dollars was squandered over the years by the local government? money meant to do something about the levees? i imagine a huge levee breaking and collapsing would make quite a bit of noise.

oh, i've seen the pictures too. a lot of the devastation was caused by the hurricane's winds. the flooding, however, was caused by the levees. and all the levees were breached to some extent...or so say the reports here. just not to the same extent. also, despite the media focusing on new orleans, it wasn't the only place hit and devastated by the hurricane. places like venice were flooded too. there are some small towns that are believed to be gone forever. new orleans is a tragic situation that could have been avoided by better evacuation planning and levee upkeep and modernization. however it's not the only place in louisiana hit. those people aren't the only ones who've been left homeless.

i don't know about the rest of the country but here in louisiana people have always discussed how a cat 5, even a cat 4, hurricane could sink new orleans if it hit the city just right. do i think it was smart to leave so many people in the superdome? no, that wasn't the brightest idea in the world. but people are also forgetting that people in hospitals were also left. what about them? and the doctors and nurses who stayed because of the patients?

Edited September 11, 2005 by evedallas

[mrs]

here is a tidbit to chew on for a bit...... sent to me by a friend. 

In case you aren't familiar with how the city, state, and federal

governments are SUPPOSED to work, the chain of responsibility for the

protection of the citizens in New Orleans is:

  1. The Mayor

  2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security (a political appointee

of the Governor who reports to the Governor)

  3. The Governor

  4. The Head of Homeland Security

  5. The President

  What did each do?

  1. The mayor, with 5 days advance notice, waited until 2 days before he

announced a mandatory evacuation (at the behest of the President). Then he

failed to provide transportation for those without transportation even

though he had hundreds of buses at his disposal. Finally, he had the gall

to publicly denounce President Bush for "sitting on his butt" and not doing

anything.

    There is now a new manditory evacuation on going, and still having people not willing to leave.  Who are they going to blame for their illnesses and deaths?

  2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security failed to have any plan

for a contingency that has been discussed for 50 years. Then he blames the

Feds for not doing what he should have done. (So much! for political

appointees)

  3. The Governor, despite a declaration of disaster by the President 2

DAYS BEFORE the storm hit, failed to take advantage of the offer of Federal

troops and aid. Until 2 DAYS AFTER the storm hit.

  4. The Director of Homeland Security positioned assets in the area to be

ready when the Governor called for them

  5. The President urged a mandatory evacuation, and even declared a

disaster State of Emergency, freeing up millions of dollars of federal

assistance, should the Governor decide to use it.

  Oh and by the way, the levees that broke were the responsibility of the

local landowners and the local levee board to maintain, NOT THE FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT.  However, Federal monies were provided for the city of New

Orleans to be used in the securing of the levees, over the past years, and

it was redirected and spent elsewhere.

  The disaster in New Orleans is what you get after decades of corrupt

(democratic) government going all the way back to Huey Long, a government

that has openly courted the gay establishment and had offered its streets

to 15,000 of them for a parade (to occur the day after the hurricane hit).

So much for that parade!

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If this is the case then how can people possibly justify blaming Bush?

[other one]

I look at the fact that Walmart and the Red Cross both came to help those who could not get out of New Orleans proper and FEMA stopped them and turned them away.... they also went into the city and cut the communication lines for the local police. I hope you are not thinking that the State or Local governments made this decision........ FEMA did it and they are under the direction of Homeland Security which Mr. Bush selected the heads of both.........

[Bethshaya]

Is your state ready for a National Disaster?

Since Hurricane K, the problems seen deep in the south, One would start wondering if your state is prepared for a National Disaster?

I live in the state of Michigan. I will have to write our Governor and find out what is in place.

At this time we know FEMA doesn't have it together. They are working things out on a minute to minute agenda. Hopefully, they will have it together by what ever is going to come next.

The Military has different places all over the state, where supplies of water and food could be stored.

Maybe sitting back and assuming isn't where the answer lies. It takes a little energy on your part to make positive changes in our states.

Snow

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Hey all, this is my first post here.

All Homeland Security information should be on your states website. Michigan's is here:

http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1...8920---,00.html

Do you know what to do if a disaster hit your state? Where will your children be? Do you get them or let them stay at school? How will you meet back up if you are separated? What about Sheltering in Place? Do you have the supplies you need? As we have seen, right or wrong, you might not be able to count on the government to get to you and should plan on at least a weeks worth of supplies of food, water, shelter, heat, medical supplies and toiletries (babies, women, children)..don't forget to pack a bible, your most important survival tool.

What about your car? Do you have a small backpack ready in your car with essentials for 72 hours should something happen while at work and you would not be able to return home?

We've all heard this before, over and over, for the past 4 years from the government...BUT have YOU dont it yet? Sadly, most Americans know they should, but never do until it is too late.

Be prepared. People survived some of the greatest disasters on earth because they were prepared both physically and spiritually. Look at Noah, look at Job.

Edited September 12, 2005 by Bethshaya

[ruah brit]

There is no state that will be able to stand when the arm of the Lord moves over it.

Rev 11

6 These have power to shut heaven, so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy; and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire.

10 because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth.

11 It shall come to pass in that day That the Lord shall set His hand again the second time To recover the remnant of His people who are left, From Assyria and Egypt, From Pathros and Cush, From Elam and Shinar, From Hamath and the islands of the sea.

12 He will set up a banner for the nations, And will assemble the outcasts of Israel, And gather together the dispersed of Judah From the four corners of the earth.

Mr 13

27 And then He will send His angels, and gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven.

Denise