Did God warn your church about this pandemic ?

[R. Hartono]

In early January 2020 i was laying in bed at night and it was raining hard, then the lightnings stroke and the room was brightened and i saw a man was standing there but a big chain then thrown at him and he was chained tight and he could not move and fell.

I did not sleep yet and it was kinda scary. God did not tell anything.

And as days gone by, then our nation is severely locked down in early April due to this pandemic, only grocery stores, drug stores and hospitals are allowed,cities turned death, churches closed.

Then i remember that vision and tried to understand what it actually meant and what will happen next.

And then in April 2020 in the middle of severe locked down i dreamed of an ugly old woman dressed in black and she was heavily pregnant, she could contract the birth pang any time. And i believe this ugly old woman speaks about this unGodly world who is not aware of the coming birth pang. I have shared this vision and dream at the local forum and a pastor also said the birth pang is coming. Matthew 24 speaks about the BEGINNING of birth pang which has yet to happen now. It has been almost two years now since the dream and God is still merciful.

Did God warn your church before this pandemic ?

Edited February 17, 2022 by R. Hartono

[Starise]

I believe that early on there were both believers and non believers who seen the whole COVID scheme as a move to control. I can attest to this because of a secular music forum I frequent where at least one non believer voiced this opinion.

This is obvious to many people. Since unbelievers have no point of reference they can only see what's happening which is enough to draw the right conclusions for any thinking person. Those behind it who were helping to plan it know all too well.

I don't mean to minimize that we lost and are loosing many people to COVID or get into a dispute over the vaccine itself which I believe was at least partially effective. It had to be in order to pull this off.

God uses all sorts of ways to warn people about things. I feel confident in saying there were probably people such as yourself who had these kinds of premonitions, but many of them don't tell others what they experienced. You can find a whole slew of these kinds of things on YouTube. Some of them likely just trying to get play counts and some of them legit.

Probably the main threat against churches in general was in governments trying to take away their ability to meet. Of the churches I am aware of, a few met in a casual way. Then some caught COVID and the pastor closed church. None of the churches I am familiar with closed for very long and soon re opened.

My church is open 100% again. Other churches are still in deep hybernation and maybe they will never return to their prior state. To me it seemed that the more the church members liked zoom meetings over real assembly, the less likely they were to return to normal.....and I have to say this.....the more liberal or apostate churches were the most likely to stay closed while the more right leaning churches tended to meet again asap. This has been my experience.

There may come a time where the church becomes a lot less formal and much smaller. More like home groups meeting. In many ways this can be a good thing because it takes us all back to our roots.

[Waggles]

11 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Did God warn your church before this pandemic ?

Yes through the gift of prophecy which is spoken in a time set aside for the voice gifts of the Holy Spirit in accordance with 1Corinthians 14.

God said that a time was coming soon when we would not be able to worship together openly as we were used to doing - and that we needed to be motivated to keep the faith and to care and support one another through this time of affliction.

Personally I thought that the un-Godly were finally coming to get us homophobes for our hate speech, but it turned out to be a weaponised coronavirus that would force us all to worship from home and to use live streaming to conduct communion and virtual church meetings.

And God was right as usual - while most have returned to our real meetings and fellowship again, not all have come back.

[Marathoner]

30 years ago, I experienced a dream. In this dream, a mysterious illness was claiming everyone around me --- people I didn't know in waking life. 

As this illness progressed the stricken were confined to beds. I cared for as many as I possibly could, staying with them, keeping them company, and looking after their needs so they wouldn't be alone. The illness eventually claimed them.  

I was immune. 

[TheBlade]

You know never looked but only watched one man who says hes a prophet. Has the video in his Church 2016 then July 2019 taked about a world pandemic coming. God always warms.. just we His Church don't like agree with the one it might come from. I never followed this guy was just watching a video and he talked about it..showed it. Forget his name. Yeah never goes around telling anyone "GOD TOLD ME!" haha. Never takes the glory. After this I looked.. anyway. Oh he said in July 2019 "the unscrupulous Will take it vantage of it". That was spot on

Edited February 18, 2022 by TheBlade

[Fancicoffee]

On 2/17/2022 at 1:52 AM, R. Hartono said:

In early January 2020 i was laying in bed at night and it was raining hard, then the lightnings stroke and the room was brightened and i saw a man was standing there but a big chain then thrown at him and he was chained tight and he could not move and fell.

I did not sleep yet and it was kinda scary. God did not tell anything.

And as days gone by, then our nation is severely locked down in early April due to this pandemic, only grocery stores, drug stores and hospitals are allowed,cities turned death, churches closed.

Then i remember that vision and tried to understand what it actually meant and what will happen next.

And then in April 2020 in the middle of severe locked down i dreamed of an ugly old woman dressed in black and she was heavily pregnant, she could contract the birth pang any time. And i believe this ugly old woman speaks about this unGodly world who is not aware of the coming birth pang. I have shared this vision and dream at the local forum and a pastor also said the birth pang is coming. Matthew 24 speaks about the BEGINNING of birth pang which has yet to happen now. It has been almost two years now since the dream and God is still merciful.

Did God warn your church before this pandemic ?

It is important to clarify that God's wrath comes with mercy (Hab. 3:2; 1 Chron. 21:13).  We can discern his mercy in the  pattern of smaller catastrophes preceding greater ones, granting opportunity for repentance sooner rather than paying larger consequences later. (Christianity Today)  I quoted this because it has Biblical references to it.  Plus, I believe our God is merciful and not hateful in His judgement.

[branchesofHim]

On 2/16/2022 at 11:52 PM, R. Hartono said:

Did God warn your church before this pandemic ?

God always tells His people what is going to occur before it does. He told Abraham long before Israel was in bondage in Egypt. Shalom

Genesis 15:[12] And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him.
[13] And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;
[14] And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.

[Ray12614]

God always speaks to His people concerning major things to come, and/or things currently happening that is hidden somehow. The question at hand is: Are the members of His Church listening, and are they at a place in their relationship with Jesus that they can hear? Then additionally, when they do hear from God via whatever mode they hear by (dreams, visions, prophetic utterance, preached Word etc.) do they seek understanding about what they have heard so that they can take appropriate actions (prayer, preparations) ?

My church as a whole 'knew' that something(s) was about to take place in 2019. We were confident that spiritual warfare was about to break out as never before. We were stressing 'cleaning our houses' by putting an end to individual secret sins that we do that nobody knows about, we put our church finances in order, and accountability weaknesses resolved. We bought technology so that we could communicate and stream online and implemented in a limited way. We increased our evangelism in the community, and our families. We renewed our love of the scriptures, and preached the Word 'in season and out'. We increased our brotherly love for each other, and became more involved in each others lives helping each other. We just believed that we were supposed to do all this out of obedience to the Word and the Holy Spirit, and that was very true, but, unknown to us, it actually prepared us to take appropriate actions when the 'pandemic' actually hit the USA. We streamed online services, kept connected via online meetings and texting. We were able to distribute offering funds to members of our church who were totally unprepared, and needed food, assistance, prayers, and other things.

So, we were unknowingly prepared for the pandemic and government over-reach, and basically just shifted gears to what society was dealing us as God's people. We were all thinking at the time that what we were doing was a lot of work and effort (which is was and still is), but, looking backwards we see it as provision for us as a church body.

Today: We are back in our local church, assembling with occasional self isolating when symptoms appear, and then coming back together after the appropriate number of days are done. Our church body is for the most part (with some exceptions of course) strong and whole both spiritually and physically. We can only attribute it to God's goodness, faithfulness and mercy to us. 

To answer your question; No, we did not have an specific 'word' about Covid and government overreach. We only had basic directions given in scriptures with an accompanying unction to get our houses in order, both individually and as a church.

So, what is the Spirit dealing with my local church about now???  It is 'Endurance'.

Grace and Peace to all here who love Jesus our King . . . 

Ray . . . 

 

 

 

 

[R. Hartono]

On 2/21/2022 at 3:03 AM, Fancicoffee said:

It is important to clarify that God's wrath comes with mercy (Hab. 3:2; 1 Chron. 21:13).  We can discern his mercy in the  pattern of smaller catastrophes preceding greater ones, granting opportunity for repentance sooner rather than paying larger consequences later.

Then this pandemic will look like a picnic compared with the coming birth pang.

[Prycejosh1987]

No He didnt i actually caught Covid and stayed away from church for 14 days. The pastor asked why i havent been to church in so long i told him why, and sarcastically he said praise the lord. I said yeah but was offended. At the end of the day, we need to examine spiritual focus and maintain our spiritual growth.