Who Will Populate the Millennium?

[Dennis1209]

On 4/16/2022 at 9:01 AM, angels4u said:

Do you really think that you can change your mind after taking the MOTB willingly? That's what John MacArthur is  teaching and I believe it's wrong teaching.

Hi Angles,

Is this a recent change in John MacArthur’s theology and teaching?

[Dennis1209]

On 4/16/2022 at 6:00 PM, angels4u said:

We have to agree to disagree, there is in my opinion no way truly born again Christians will be deceived to take the MOTB..

Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

It seems clear to me, Christians will not be deceived, and worship of the Beast is the priority. No worship and allegiance, no mark. 

 

 

[angels4u]

37 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Hi Angles,

Is this a recent change in John MacArthur’s theology and teaching?

He's teaching this for a long time now, as far as I know:

https://www.google.com/search?q=john+macarther+and+repent+of+the+mark+of+the+beast&client=firefox-b-d&sxsrf=APq-WBviDqUD2f4e5tcN2voyXmPRRpW68g%3A1650408715226&ei=Cz1fYuC5DZOGptQP9rW8iA0&ved=0ahUKEwig69HJm6H3AhUTg4kEHfYaD9EQ4dUDCA0&uact=5&oq=john+macarther+and+repent+of+the+mark+of+the+beast&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAM6BwgjELACECc6CgghEBYQChAdEB5KBAhBGAFKBAhGGABQmQlYqjhgvjtoAXAAeACAAegBiAGhFJIBBjAuMTcuMpgBAKABAcABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz

[Dennis1209]

1 hour ago, angels4u said:

He's teaching this for a long time now, as far as I know:

https://www.google.com/search?q=john+macarther+and+repent+of+the+mark+of+the+beast&client=firefox-b-d&sxsrf=APq-WBviDqUD2f4e5tcN2voyXmPRRpW68g%3A1650408715226&ei=Cz1fYuC5DZOGptQP9rW8iA0&ved=0ahUKEwig69HJm6H3AhUTg4kEHfYaD9EQ4dUDCA0&uact=5&oq=john+macarther+and+repent+of+the+mark+of+the+beast&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAM6BwgjELACECc6CgghEBYQChAdEB5KBAhBGAFKBAhGGABQmQlYqjhgvjtoAXAAeACAAegBiAGhFJIBBjAuMTcuMpgBAKABAcABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz

Howdy Angels,

I was wondering; I had never heard that before. I have all of MacArthur’s study notes, and he does not say anything like that in his notes. I figured it must have been something he said on video or a program.

I checked their website, Grace to You, and it was a program he said it on, and it stirred up a lot of controversies. I was not aware of what he said and believed that. He does make a biblical case for his view, but I firmly believe he is wrong on this one.

I am not an apologist for MacArthur, but I respect John MacArthur’s views and interpretations on most things. I think this one is a biggie, though.

In addition to the unpardonable sin, the Pharisees committed. I firmly believe taking the mark of the Beast is unforgivable, unpardonable, and is a sin unto the second death.

Another highlight is the age of Grace; the church age has closed. In my view, the Holy Spirit is not permanently indwelling in anyone. He who restrains (Holy Spirit) which resides in every believer is removed from the earth to Heaven.

Once again, these are just my thoughts. Sure, it was a beautiful day here! I am going to get 16 chicks tomorrow. Since I retired, I’ve had free eggs and thought I would take a break from tending chickens daily. Now look at the price and sometimes availability of eggs these days.

[Marilyn C]

23 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

Howdy Angels,

I was wondering; I had never heard that before. I have all of MacArthur’s study notes, and he does not say anything like that in his notes. I figured it must have been something he said on video or a program.

I checked their website, Grace to You, and it was a program he said it on, and it stirred up a lot of controversies. I was not aware of what he said and believed that. He does make a biblical case for his view, but I firmly believe he is wrong on this one.

I am not an apologist for MacArthur, but I respect John MacArthur’s views and interpretations on most things. I think this one is a biggie, though.

In addition to the unpardonable sin, the Pharisees committed. I firmly believe taking the mark of the Beast is unforgivable, unpardonable, and is a sin unto the second death.

Another highlight is the age of Grace; the church age has closed. In my view, the Holy Spirit is not permanently indwelling in anyone. He who restrains (Holy Spirit) which resides in every believer is removed from the earth to Heaven.

Once again, these are just my thoughts. Sure, it was a beautiful day here! I am going to get 16 chicks tomorrow. Since I retired, I’ve had free eggs and thought I would take a break from tending chickens daily. Now look at the price and sometimes availability of eggs these days.

Hi Dennis,

Yes things are getting dearer. Just a few thought on your comments as I know you are someone who thinks clearly and speaks respectfully.

1. The Holy Spirit is omnipresent, (everywhere present), so when it says He is removed, I believe that He is removed from working to mature the Body of Christ which will be gone. However as scripture tells us there will be people who turn to God from the nations, and thus the Holy Spirit will be drawing them to God. (Rev. 7: 14)

2. I believe that God has His hand of mercy out in the trib, for people are saved, (to go on the new earth, Rev. 21: 24). Thus I see that God will give people an opportunity to repent, some do and some don`t. (Rev. 9: 20 & 21) 

And those that worship demons or the A/C do not repent.

regards, Marilyn.

[Dennis1209]

56 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Dennis,

Yes things are getting dearer. Just a few thought on your comments as I know you are someone who thinks clearly and speaks respectfully.

1. The Holy Spirit is omnipresent, (everywhere present), so when it says He is removed, I believe that He is removed from working to mature the Body of Christ which will be gone. However as scripture tells us there will be people who turn to God from the nations, and thus the Holy Spirit will be drawing them to God. (Rev. 7: 14)

2. I believe that God has His hand of mercy out in the trib, for people are saved, (to go on the new earth, Rev. 21: 24). Thus I see that God will give people an opportunity to repent, some do and some don`t. (Rev. 9: 20 & 21) 

And those that worship demons or the A/C do not repent.

regards, Marilyn.

Hello Marilyn C,

That is my thoughts too, and I did not elaborate much on it. Right or wrong, my thinking goes:

The Restrainer (Holy Spirit) is removed when the church is Raptured, as the Holy Spirit indwells each born-again believer. Presently the Restrainer is restraining how evil this world would be until He is removed. At the Resurrection – Rapture that is the end of the age of Grace, the church age, and another period begins for seven years (dispensation, if you will).

I view the seven-year Tribulation much like before the Holy Spirit descended upon Jesus at His baptism, Old Testament times. The Holy Spirit did not indwell believers but made sporadic appearances for specific purposes and work.

Yes, many will be saved during the Tribulation, and the Holy Spirit will be at work convicting people. But He will not be restraining evil or indwelling those who accepted the Lord Jesus as their Savior.

That is how I understand scripture anyway.

[Robtay7123]

Every single redeemed person in all of history will populate the earth during the Millennium. I look forward to talking with the great saints and prophets of old. 

[angels4u]

4 minutes ago, Robtay7123 said:

Every single redeemed person in all of history will populate the earth during the Millennium. I look forward to talking with the great saints and prophets of old. 

Amen,who do you like to chat with first?

[Robtay7123]

1 minute ago, angels4u said:

Amen,who do you like to chat with first?

That my friend is a very difficult question.  I imagine it will be difficult to talk to many of them. The popular ones will likely have millions of people waiting to talk to them. Luckily we have all eternity.  However the one I look forward to the most would be the Apostle Paul. Then maybe Adam.

[nobody]

 The earth will be uninhabited, it will roll like a drunkard and never recover. A New Earth is being made and God will place man again on that planet and the nations will grow there. It will ever be here before the lord and not be destroyed.