Interesting passage gives insights into Predestination and Foreknowledge

[Starise]

I used the word "might". There is no indication I thought I knew anything. 

I was referring to the fact that people can join Worthy and not be believers.

There are many confused people out there and Worthy can't necessarily weed out everyone.

If a person comes here and says they were struck by lightening while cutting wood and all of a sudden they were saved, this would be basis for question. 

If we are chastised for questioning what we see as shaky teaching then this isn't a good place to be.

I would hope the whole reason we have a place like this is so we CAN question and communicate over these things.

So please- Don't try to pin me to make an accusation.

[Starise]

If i say I quoted passages in the book of Buckwheat to get saved and I am argumentative that I'm saved what would you tell me?

[OneLight]

5 minutes ago, Starise said:

If i say I quoted passages in the book of Buckwheat to get saved and I am argumentative that I'm saved what would you tell me?

I'd ask to see the secret club wave!

sorry, couldn't resist LOL

[Starise]

1 minute ago, Rosie1jack2pauline3 said:

How can any believer argue that they were saved ,if they weren’t, it wouldn’t be up for argument...doesn’t one know if they are saved?..

There are people who think they are believers who in reality are not. The Pharisees thought they were good men who did righteous things. They were going straight to hell. They would have argued they were saved.

Many people have had religious "experiences" they have mistaken for salvation.

[Starise]

Wouldn't know what? That a person is saved?

If by a person's own mouth they tell me that they believe they were saved because they are Catholic and prayed to Mary their entire life, we can KNOW they haven't been saved.

If a person says they are going to heaven because they have a pretty face and never said one cuss word, they are unsaved.

You want more examples? I have a whole list. Many people implicate themselves by their own words.

[Starise]

Anyways I gotta run. Not because I want to. See ya'll later God Bless!

[B-B]

11 minutes ago, Starise said:

Many people implicate themselves by their own words

Yes… I think I kinda understand what you’re saying…

I guess also, maybe thinking along similar lines, there are folk who may actually talk a good religious convincing talk,  but sadly their actions/behaviour don’t marry up with their words…

Maybe on the whole, it might  be good for us to be more careful with our speech.…..

…as James says…

who can tame the tongue…? 

Edited April 26, 2022 by B-B

[Selah7]

35 minutes ago, Rosie1jack2pauline3 said:

A true born who had the spirit testify to their spirit that they are his child, that is the word of God and would live in the heart of his child forever, because it came from God and is the word of God.

So who would you say saved you, Rosie?  I don’t know much about Calvinist theology and I’m just trying to understand.

S.

[Selah7]

4 minutes ago, Rosie1jack2pauline3 said:

 

God of course, here is the scripture, he must testify that to your spirit.

Im surprised as a child of God yourself, you don’t understand .

What has Calvin got to do with me being  regenerated by God?

 

Would you mind posting some scriptures?  

[Selah7]

1 minute ago, Rosie1jack2pauline3 said:

I just did.

Where?