One World This or That

[Alive]

Alive’s assertion: all verses folks use to assert a one world/all world government are inferential and are thus informed by a preconception.

Prove me wrong.

While doing so, be careful not to add to the words of scripture…let’s keep it simple.

[Keras]

The Jewish Israeli people are ‘the budding of the fig tree’, a first fruit of the final regathering of ALL the Israelite people.

We are told in many prophecies that Judah will be judged and punished for their many sins, Amos 2:4-5,  but a remnant will survive to become a ‘holy seed in the Land’. Isaiah 6:11-13   Then, the great spiritual regeneration and rejoining of all the Israelites will take place; Ezekiel 37:1-19, and as Ezekiel 37:20-28 goes on to say: I shall make them a single nation in the holy Land and I shall pour out My Spirit upon them.  Isaiah 44:1-5

Then the Lord’s righteous people will be His witnesses, Isaiah 43:10 and 12,000 from each tribe will go out to the world, to proclaim the coming Kingdom of Jesus. Revelation 14:1-7, Isaiah 66:19 

This judgement/punishment event will severely affect the whole world, Zephaniah 3:8, Isaiah 66:15-17, Luke 21:35 and the nations will cede their sovereignty to a One World Government in order to re-establish normal life and initially ten regions will be formed,  Daniel 7:24, Revelation 17:12-13,  each with a Governor or President.  Fairly soon, a charismatic and powerful man will rise and take control of them all, declaring himself to be the great leader and savior of humankind. Revelation 13:2-4

New Israel, [Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5] will not join this federation and they become rich and prosperous, blessed by the Lord, living in peace as God wipes out the Gog/Magog attack, Ezekiel 38 & 39, Joel 2:20, but they become complacent and when the OWG leader comes to make a peace treaty with them, their leaders agree to it, Daniel 11:32, Isaiah 28:13-15, forgetting that it is the Lord who protects and saves them. Isaiah 28:18

This is the trigger for the start of the final seven years, as prophesied in Daniel.  The first 3.5 years will be peaceful, but then the OWG leader comes to Jerusalem with his army and conquers Beulah.  Zechariah 14:1-2, Revelation 13:5-8

He goes to the new Temple and sits in the Holy of Holies, declaring himself to be God. 2 Thessalonians 2:3   This commences the trumpet and bowl punishments of the great Tribulation, which lasts for 3.5 years. But there will be 2 Witnesses of God in Jerusalem for that time. Revelation 11:1-13

Those righteous Israelites, who refused to agree to the treaty with the OWG leader, are promised a place of safety on earth for this time. Revelation 12:14 Then the Lord Jesus will Return in glory, to reign on earth for the next 1000 years.  Revelation 20:1-6

After that comes the Great White Throne judgement of all the living and dead.  Revelation 20:11-15

 Finally: Eternity with God in the New Jerusalem; for all whose names are found in the Book of Life. Revelation 21:1-7

                                                               

[Alive]

51 minutes ago, Keras said:

The Jewish Israeli people are ‘the budding of the fig tree’, a first fruit of the final regathering of ALL the Israelite people.

We are told in many prophecies that Judah will be judged and punished for their many sins, Amos 2:4-5,  but a remnant will survive to become a ‘holy seed in the Land’. Isaiah 6:11-13   Then, the great spiritual regeneration and rejoining of all the Israelites will take place; Ezekiel 37:1-19, and as Ezekiel 37:20-28 goes on to say: I shall make them a single nation in the holy Land and I shall pour out My Spirit upon them.  Isaiah 44:1-5

Then the Lord’s righteous people will be His witnesses, Isaiah 43:10 and 12,000 from each tribe will go out to the world, to proclaim the coming Kingdom of Jesus. Revelation 14:1-7, Isaiah 66:19 

This judgement/punishment event will severely affect the whole world, Zephaniah 3:8, Isaiah 66:15-17, Luke 21:35 and the nations will cede their sovereignty to a One World Government in order to re-establish normal life and initially ten regions will be formed,  Daniel 7:24, Revelation 17:12-13,  each with a Governor or President.  Fairly soon, a charismatic and powerful man will rise and take control of them all, declaring himself to be the great leader and savior of humankind. Revelation 13:2-4

New Israel, [Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5] will not join this federation and they become rich and prosperous, blessed by the Lord, living in peace as God wipes out the Gog/Magog attack, Ezekiel 38 & 39, Joel 2:20, but they become complacent and when the OWG leader comes to make a peace treaty with them, their leaders agree to it, Daniel 11:32, Isaiah 28:13-15, forgetting that it is the Lord who protects and saves them. Isaiah 28:18

This is the trigger for the start of the final seven years, as prophesied in Daniel.  The first 3.5 years will be peaceful, but then the OWG leader comes to Jerusalem with his army and conquers Beulah.  Zechariah 14:1-2, Revelation 13:5-8

He goes to the new Temple and sits in the Holy of Holies, declaring himself to be God. 2 Thessalonians 2:3   This commences the trumpet and bowl punishments of the great Tribulation, which lasts for 3.5 years. But there will be 2 Witnesses of God in Jerusalem for that time. Revelation 11:1-13

Those righteous Israelites, who refused to agree to the treaty with the OWG leader, are promised a place of safety on earth for this time. Revelation 12:14 Then the Lord Jesus will Return in glory, to reign on earth for the next 1000 years.  Revelation 20:1-6

After that comes the Great White Throne judgement of all the living and dead.  Revelation 20:11-15

 Finally: Eternity with God in the New Jerusalem; for all whose names are found in the Book of Life. Revelation 21:1-7

                                                               

Thanks but this does not answer the question. Please take this to another thread.

[Marilyn C]

6 hours ago, Alive said:

Alive’s assertion: all verses folks use to assert a one world/all world government are inferential and are thus informed by a preconception.

Prove me wrong.

While doing so, be careful not to add to the words of scripture…let’s keep it simple.

Hi Alive,

`You, O King, are a king of kings. For the God of Heaven has given you a kingdom, power, strength and glory: and WHEREVER the children of men dwell or the beasts of the field and the birds of the heaven, He has given them into your hand, and has made you ruler over them all - you are this head of gold......` (Dan. 2: 37 & 38) 

And so on throughout the great image, which is a pictorial representation of the Gentile world rulers before the Lord sets up His righteous kingdom through Israel. 

[Keras]

44 minutes ago, Alive said:

Thanks but this does not answer the question. Please take this to another thread.

I used 28 scriptures to prove that there will be a One World Government. 

That such an idea doesn't suit you, is your prerogative, but others should have the prophetic truth presented for a balanced presentation. 

[Montana Marv]

Rev 13.

All follow the beast who was slain and now is alive. All means all. The Beast and the  False Prophet are the first to occupy the  Lake of Fire.

In Christ 

Montana Marv 

[Alive]

Not one of these scriptures or inferences clearly indicate a world wide governance at all never mind the future world from their perspective.

Supposition and inference based on a presupposition.

[Montana Marv]

27 minutes ago, Alive said:

Not one of these scriptures or inferences clearly indicate a world wide governance at all never mind the future world from their perspective.

Supposition and inference based on a presupposition.

So all do not follow this Beast. Can't have it both ways. Either all do or they do not. One world dictator or is there two.

All means one. Some means two or more.

In Christ 

Montana Marv 

[Alive]

I am hoping for clear scripture abscent of an imposed end time construct overlaying the scriptures.

not seeing it.

[teddyv]

Just now, Heaven_Bound said:

Being required to accept a Mark on your hand/forehead to buy/sell/trade is not a qualifier?   That pretty much sums up one world all by itself.

That would assume this is a future matter.