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This may burst a few bubbles:

1 Thes 4:16,17 - For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God.  And the dead in Christ will rise first (a resurrection), After that, we who are still alive (alive in Christ) and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air (not a resurrection).

Part A is a resurrection, the dead in Christ.  They are being changed into a spiritual body.  Part B is not a resurrection (it is a Rapture), those alive. Also being changed into a spiritual body.

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4 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Ezk 43:4 - And the Glory of the Lord entered the temple through the gate facing East. v 5b, and the glory of the Lord filled the temple. v7 this is the place of my throne and the place for the soles of my feet.  This is where I will live among the Israelites forever. 

As clearly shown, Ezekiel Chapter 43 showed the temple "Pattern" to the House of Israel in the Babylonian Captivity let "Them" measure, Ezekiel was instructed to write the ordinances and law in "Their" sight, that "They" keep them, not some future generation as many "Falsely" claim

The temple seen in Ezekiel Chapters 40-46 is nothing more than the 2nd Zerubbabel Temple built 536BC after the Babylonian Captivity, where animal sacrifice for "Sin" was was instructed by "God", prior to the shed blood of Jesus Christ on Calvary, don't be deceived

Ezekiel 43:10-11 & 19-21KJV

10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.

11 And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them.

19 And thou shalt give to the priests the Levites that be of the seed of Zadok, which approach unto me, to minister unto me, saith the Lord God, a young bullock for a sin offering.

20 And thou shalt take of the blood thereof, and put it on the four horns of it, and on the four corners of the settle, and upon the border round about: thus shalt thou cleanse and purge it.

21 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall burn it in the appointed place of the house, without the sanctuary.

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I do not want to change...I want to die and be Judge...I want to appear before Jesus Christ...every knee shall bow down before Jesus Christ....this is what I want...without my old ailing physical body...

 


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7 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

As clearly shown, Ezekiel Chapter 43 showed the temple "Pattern" to the House of Israel in the Babylonian Captivity let "Them" measure, Ezekiel was instructed to write the ordinances and law in "Their" sight, that "They" keep them, not some future generation as many "Falsely" claim

The temple seen in Ezekiel Chapters 40-46 is nothing more than the 2nd Zerubbabel Temple built 536BC after the Babylonian Captivity, where animal sacrifice for "Sin" was was instructed by "God", prior to the shed blood of Jesus Christ on Calvary, don't be deceived

Ezekiel 43:10-11 & 19-21KJV

10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.

11 And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them.

19 And thou shalt give to the priests the Levites that be of the seed of Zadok, which approach unto me, to minister unto me, saith the Lord God, a young bullock for a sin offering.

20 And thou shalt take of the blood thereof, and put it on the four horns of it, and on the four corners of the settle, and upon the border round about: thus shalt thou cleanse and purge it.

21 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall burn it in the appointed place of the house, without the sanctuary.

Thank you for looking into the context...for making the distinction. 

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5 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Zech 14;16 - Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the Lord Almighty and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.  20. On that day Holy to the Lord will be inscribed on the bells of the horses, and the cooking pots in the Lords house will be like sacred bowls in front of the alter.  Every pot in Jerusalem and Judah will be holy to the Lord Almighty, and all who come to sacrifice will take some of the pots and cook in them.

And some may say that horses will have immortality and that we need to cook and eat.

You will closely note, Zechariah 14:16 & Isaiah 4:3-4 are "Parallel" readings of the same event, as Isaiah gives a clear account of those who are left, those who are found in the book of life, the final judgement has passed, eternity has begun "After" The Day Of The Lord

You will closely note in Isaiah 4:4 below, Jerusalem will be purged by the spirit of (Judgement) & (Burning)

Zechariah 14:12KJV

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Only The Righteous Are Left, The Book Of Life "Was" Opened (Every One That Is Written Among The Living)

Zechariah 14:16KJV

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Isaiah 4:3-4KJV

3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:

4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

Revelation 21:24-27KJV

24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

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3 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

As clearly shown, Ezekiel Chapter 43 showed the temple "Pattern" to the House of Israel in the Babylonian Captivity let "Them" measure, Ezekiel was instructed to write the ordinances and law in "Their" sight, that "They" keep them, not some future generation as many "Falsely" claim

The temple seen in Ezekiel Chapters 40-46 is nothing more than the 2nd Zerubbabel Temple built 536BC after the Babylonian Captivity, where animal sacrifice for "Sin" was was instructed by "God", prior to the shed blood of Jesus Christ on Calvary, don't be deceived

Ezekiel 43:10-11 & 19-21KJV

10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.

11 And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them.

19 And thou shalt give to the priests the Levites that be of the seed of Zadok, which approach unto me, to minister unto me, saith the Lord God, a young bullock for a sin offering.

20 And thou shalt take of the blood thereof, and put it on the four horns of it, and on the four corners of the settle, and upon the border round about: thus shalt thou cleanse and purge it.

21 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall burn it in the appointed place of the house, without the sanctuary.

Jesus came much later than Zerubbabel.  Not that temple.  Jesus will come in through the gate facing East, Now covered up.  His Glory will fill the Temple, not built yet.  the soles of His feet will tread the floors.  He will be among the Israelites forever.  The Temple of Jesus time was destroyed in 70 AD.  This prophecy has never been fulfilled.

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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4 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

Jesus came much later than Zerubbabel.  Not that temple.  Jesus will come in through the gate facing East, Now covered up.  His Glory will fill the Temple, not built yet.  the soles of His feet will tread the floors.  He will be among the Israelites forever.  The Temple of Jesus time was destroyed in 70 AD.  This prophecy has never been fulfilled.

In Christ

Montana Marv

Many claim Jesus will literally return and rule "On This Earth" In A Millennium this being false in deception

Jesus warned his followers against this teaching, Jesus wont be found anywhere upon this earth as many claim

The Antichrist will be in Jerusalem, claiming to be Messiah Returned, "Beware"!

"Believe It Not" "Go Not Forth"

Matthew 24:23-27KJV

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Revelation 13:13-14KJV

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Revelation 19:20KJV

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

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Our Father who are in Heaven hallow be thy name thy Kingdom come on earth as it is in Heaven...

 


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10 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

I do not want to change...I want to die and be Judge...I want to appear before Jesus Christ...every knee shall bow down before Jesus Christ....this is what I want...without my old ailing physical body...

 

The thing is we as N.T. Believers have already been judged.  We all have been redeemed.  Those in Christ are not guilty, our sin has been removed.  In accepting Christ as our Lord and Savior and King we have already bowed before Him.  We are His.  We are or should be subservient to Him, Jesus Christ.  Yet all will bow before Him, the unsaved, the fallen angels, as well as all creation will cry out.  For He is the King of Kings, and the Lord of Lords.  To have knelt at the Cross is to have bowed and accepted Him.  Yet this is an ongoing process, sin, knell, you are forgiven,, sin, knell, you are forgiven.

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18 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

The thing is we as N.T. Believers have already been judged.  We all have been redeemed.  Those in Christ are not guilty, our sin has been removed.  In accepting Christ as our Lord and Savior and King we have already bowed before Him.  We are His.  We are or should be subservient to Him, Jesus Christ.  Yet all will bow before Him, the unsaved, the fallen angels, as well as all creation will cry out.  For He is the King of Kings, and the Lord of Lords.  To have knelt at the Cross is to have bowed and accepted Him.  Yet this is an ongoing process, sin, knell, you are forgiven,, sin, knell, you are forgiven.

In Christ

Montana Marv

This is truth to the moment we believe and when we look again in our selves and we still believe...but this the most important..will we be found to be in the faith at the time of our death? 

This is what counts...at the time we appear before Jesus after our death...will Jesus Christ finds faith in him in our heart? 

Then he will gesture to those he finds faith in their heart; this way...pointing towards Heaven or rather pointing towards the Angels who will escort us to our Heavenly place...to orient us with the Heavenly way...or life...

This is why we preach the Gospel to those who are in their last moments...even if they are too weak to talk...we are asking them to believe because their faith is registered in their hearts...even with their ascent of their heart, their faith is registered in their heart...AMEN

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