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Recently heard someone say The KJV Bible is Masonic because Sir Francis Bacon, one of the editors was Free Mason. 
 

King James Bible published in 1611 A.D. 

Free Masonry’s First Lodge is in 1717 A.D. 

But the first Masonic Texts date 1390-1425 A.D. Which means the Free Masons already existed as far back as then. 

Anyone else heard this statement the KJV is masonic? 
 

Anyone have data its a lie or if its possible? 
 

Kinda freaked me out. 

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This is rediculous!

Please do not give this notion another thought. God has faithfully delivered His Word to us.

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16 minutes ago, Fidei Defensor said:

Recently heard someone say The KJV Bible is Masonic because Sir Francis Bacon, one of the editors was Free Mason. 
 

King James Bible published in 1611 A.D. 

Free Masonry’s First Lodge is in 1717 A.D. 

But the first Masonic Texts date 1390-1425 A.D. Which means the Free Masons already existed as far back as then. 

Anyone else heard this statement the KJV is masonic? 
 

Anyone have data its a lie or if its possible? 
 

Kinda freaked me out. 

I have read about that Fidel.   I don't know how true it might be.   There were over 50 others that were involved.

I have computer programs that let me see what the original manuscripts say and there aren't that many problems in my personal opinion.   He may well have done some editing to make it more lovely to read.    He wrote a lot and many of his writings read similarly.

I would not tag it as masonic though, or there would be a lot more discrepancies between the KJV and the Greek/Hebrew manuscripts

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32 minutes ago, Fidei Defensor said:

Recently heard someone say The KJV Bible is Masonic because Sir Francis Bacon, one of the editors was Free Mason. 
 

King James Bible published in 1611 A.D. 

Free Masonry’s First Lodge is in 1717 A.D. 

But the first Masonic Texts date 1390-1425 A.D. Which means the Free Masons already existed as far back as then. 

Anyone else heard this statement the KJV is masonic? 
 

Anyone have data its a lie or if its possible? 
 

Kinda freaked me out. 

Somebody added to the title is all. What your referring to I think is someone was a Mason who had something to do with the KJV. the person did masonry 

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Lol no it's not masonic...and even if it had ties to it, at that era in history it wouldn't bother me that much. The masons of old are a different animal then modern mason. Once upon a time they were all about preservation of religion and religious history particularly Christian. It's evolved into a whole different beast today and it's not been a positive evolution.

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Here's a clip of an article I read. Edit from my other post, it was making King James part of the craft a Mason.

 

Several generations of men named John Mylne served as both Master Mason to the King of Scotland, as well as Master of the Lodge of Scone. (The John Mylne who was the master mason to King James VI in 1601, and master of the Lodge of Scone that same year, died in 1621, and was succeeded by his son, John Mylne, who died in 1657.)

THE PERTH AGREEMENT is the document that records the initiation of King James VI. It was created and signed by a number of members of the lodge in 1658, which was over 50 years after the alleged initiation of James VI. As a result, some researchers have expressed their doubts as to whether James VI was made a mason or not. However, it is clear that there was a tradition of long standing in the Lodge of Scone that James VI had been initiated there in 1601, and this document attests to that.

 

There are other things that lend support to the claim that James VI was made a mason at Scone: 1.) James VI had shown a keen interest subjects like hermeticism, the Cabala, etc., indicating that he may have been curious and interested in learning the secrets of the Scottish masons; 2.) The king’s master mason before John Mylne had been William Schaw, who was well-versed in the Art of Memory, which was seen as an hermetic practice. In 1598 and 1599, Schaw wrote new statutes for the lodges of Scotland requiring that the members be tested annually in the Art of Memory. As a result, Freemasons still memorize large parts of their ritual. 3.) We know that King James VI was very interested in the Art of Memory, which had been introduced into Scotland by associates of Giordano Bruno, who had written books about the Art of Memory. In fact, King James hired one of his courtiers to teach the Art of Memory to the Queen; 4.) In November 1601, King James was also made a burgess at Perth, where the Lodge of Scone was located. If a king, such as James VI, was willing to be made a burgess at Perth, something that other kings might have considered to be beneath their dignity, then he might also have been interested in becoming a mason there, as well.

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47 minutes ago, Fidei Defensor said:

Recently heard someone say The KJV Bible is Masonic because Sir Francis Bacon, one of the editors was Free Mason. 
 

King James Bible published in 1611 A.D. 

Free Masonry’s First Lodge is in 1717 A.D. 

But the first Masonic Texts date 1390-1425 A.D. Which means the Free Masons already existed as far back as then. 

Anyone else heard this statement the KJV is masonic? 
 

Anyone have data its a lie or if its possible? 
 

Kinda freaked me out. 

Don't give it another thought, my friend. On occasion I compare passages between translations (many of us do), and I've never seen anything in the KJV to give me pause. Nuances of archaic and modern language aside the KJV is a fine translation, and no one will be led astray by reading this translation. :) 

Of far greater concern is the Communist Conspiracy From Outer Space:emot-eek:

Yes sir, those aliens are nothing but a bunch of extraterrestrial commies! I bet they're behind Freemasonry and the Heartbreak of Psoriasis, not to mention those prices at the pump. By golly! :headphones:

The latter portion of this post is a joke, of course. Well, sort of... that was a thing during the UFO-crazy America of the 1950's. Commies... commies everywhere! ;)   

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Freemasonry evolved from the guilds of stonemasons and cathedral builders of the Middle Ages.

Today's freemason has nothing to do with building churches anymore. Just a gang of dudes nowadays.

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43 minutes ago, BeyondET said:

Here's a clip of an article I read. Edit from my other post, it was making King James part of the craft a Mason.

 

Several generations of men named John Mylne served as both Master Mason to the King of Scotland, as well as Master of the Lodge of Scone. (The John Mylne who was the master mason to King James VI in 1601, and master of the Lodge of Scone that same year, died in 1621, and was succeeded by his son, John Mylne, who died in 1657.)

THE PERTH AGREEMENT is the document that records the initiation of King James VI. It was created and signed by a number of members of the lodge in 1658, which was over 50 years after the alleged initiation of James VI. As a result, some researchers have expressed their doubts as to whether James VI was made a mason or not. However, it is clear that there was a tradition of long standing in the Lodge of Scone that James VI had been initiated there in 1601, and this document attests to that.

 

There are other things that lend support to the claim that James VI was made a mason at Scone: 1.) James VI had shown a keen interest subjects like hermeticism, the Cabala, etc., indicating that he may have been curious and interested in learning the secrets of the Scottish masons; 2.) The king’s master mason before John Mylne had been William Schaw, who was well-versed in the Art of Memory, which was seen as an hermetic practice. In 1598 and 1599, Schaw wrote new statutes for the lodges of Scotland requiring that the members be tested annually in the Art of Memory. As a result, Freemasons still memorize large parts of their ritual. 3.) We know that King James VI was very interested in the Art of Memory, which had been introduced into Scotland by associates of Giordano Bruno, who had written books about the Art of Memory. In fact, King James hired one of his courtiers to teach the Art of Memory to the Queen; 4.) In November 1601, King James was also made a burgess at Perth, where the Lodge of Scone was located. If a king, such as James VI, was willing to be made a burgess at Perth, something that other kings might have considered to be beneath their dignity, then he might also have been interested in becoming a mason there, as well.

I’ll have to check this info out. 

What benefit would the Masons derive from influneving the KJV? 
 


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2 minutes ago, Fidei Defensor said:

I’ll have to check this info out. 

What benefit would the Masons derive from influneving the KJV? 
 

Nothing at all, they were bricklayers basically. where ever you saw that the article author hasn't a clue of who they originally were. today I don't think they are actual masons anymore.

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