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3 hours ago, Littlelambseativy said:

To what pertaining to the rapture do you object?

I believe that no one’s going anywhere until Jesus Christ returns at the 7th trump.  The antichrist, on the other hand, will appear at the 6th trump. 
God's Elect will be used mightily during these latter days and we will endure until the very end when Jesus returns as the King of kings and Lord of lords.  Now how can we endure till the end if we’ve been taken away?     Selah 

 "But watch out for yourselves, for they will deliver you up to councils, and you will be beaten in the synagogues. You will be brought before rulers and kings for My sake, for a testimony to them. "And the gospel must first be preached to all the nations. "But when they arrest you and deliver you up, do not worry beforehand, or premeditate what you will speak. But whatever is given you in that hour, speak that; for it is not you who speak, but the Holy Spirit. "Now brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents and cause them to be put to death. "And you will be hated by all for My name's sake. But he who endures to the end shall be saved. "So when you see the 'abomination of desolation,' spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not" (let the reader understand), "then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.

- Mark 13:9-14

 

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After Revelation 3, the church ( bride ) is no longer mentioned because the church has been taken/ raptured. It speaks only if Israel and the Tribulation period. 
If God spared Noah and his family from the worldwide flood and Lot and his family from destruction, do you really think that Jesus would let the bride for whom He died suffer the torment of the bowls, trumpets and the evil of Satan and anti christ? We are the redeemed.


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2 minutes ago, Littlelambseativy said:

After Revelation 3, the church ( bride ) is no longer mentioned because the church has been taken/ raptured. It speaks only if Israel and the Tribulation period. 
If God spared Noah and his family from the worldwide flood and Lot and his family from destruction, do you really think that Jesus would let the bride for whom He died suffer the torment of the bowls, trumpets and the evil of Satan and anti christ? We are the redeemed.

You are right. The Church is not mentioned because it is in heaven. 


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38 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

I believe that no one’s going anywhere until Jesus Christ returns at the 7th trump.  The antichrist, on the other hand, will appear at the 6th trump. 
God's Elect will be used mightily during these latter days and we will endure until the very end when Jesus returns as the King of kings and Lord of lords.

Nothing in Scripture backs up the statement in bold. Nor the first two sentences, for that matter.

Jesus will come as the Bridegroom for His virgin bride first. Only afterward will he return to establish His kingdom. The bride is the faithful Church; the kingdom is for his earthly stewards, faithful Israel.

67. Virgins and Stewards, Part 1: Questions

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2776-virgins-and-stewards-part-1-questions/

68. Virgins and Stewards, Part 1: Answers

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2777-virgins-and-stewards-part-2-answers/

 

 


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5 minutes ago, Littlelambseativy said:

After Revelation 3, the church ( bride ) is no longer mentioned because the church has been taken/ raptured.

"The Church" is never mentioned as such in Revelation at all. Only "the church of Ephesus" etc.

Rev. 2:7 "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."

So your argument is based upon a false premise.

However, the literal church as a whole IS mentioned in Rev. 7:9-14, "the great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands...the ones having come out of the great tribulation..."

And also in Rev. 19:7, "the marriage of the Lamb came, and His wife made herself ready."


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The church/bride is in heaven after ch 3  because the rapture has occurred.


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11 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

"The Church" is never mentioned as such in Revelation at all. Only "the church of Ephesus" etc.

Rev. 2:7 "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."

So your argument is based upon a false premise.

However, the literal church as a whole IS mentioned in Rev. 7:9-14, "the great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands...the ones having come out of the great tribulation..."

And also in Rev. 19:7, "the marriage of the Lamb came, and His wife made herself ready."

In total disagreement with you, but thanks for your input.   Selah 


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Just now, Littlelambseativy said:

The church/bride is in heaven after ch 3  because the rapture has occurred.

Scriptures please.


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33 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

You are right. The Church is not mentioned because it is in heaven. 

Scriptures please 


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25 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

Scriptures please 

In Revelation 3:10 God told the Philadelphia Church that He promised that they will be kept from the hour of trial that will come upon the earth which is the great tribulation Daniel's seventieth week Daniel 9:25-27. Paul said that believers are not "destined" for wrath 1 Thessalonians 5:9. 

 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,

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