No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him:

[Alive]

1 hour ago, Rosie1jack2pauline3 said:

Agreed about the special grace, that can only come from God.

what does and the rest receive justice,Alive?

Does that mean they will be judged when they die?

Thanks Alive, 💗🙏

 Hello, Rosie.

Yes--we know that all have sinned and come short and we know that the wages of sin is death. The judgement meted out to those not redeemed by Christ are judged at the white throne final judgement and then sent to destruction...the final death.

[Your closest friendnt]

4 hours ago, Alive said:

 Hello, Rosie.

Yes--we know that all have sinned and come short and we know that the wages of sin is death. The judgement meted out to those not redeemed by Christ are judged at the white throne final judgement and then sent to destruction...the final death.

I heard others speaking like that, and it sounds difficult to put it together word by word, line upon line, sentence upon sentence, precept upon precept. 

Looked up the Apostolic teachings and it is difficult even impossible to reconcile the statements in the quoted post with the beliefs of the Pharisees and the keepers of the Law...and the Jews and for that matter the disciples who came from similar background believing to the contrary the suggestions in the quoted post above...

Believing that at the time of their death it was the beginning of a life with Abraham, a life after death in the Paradise of Abraham...where all together they were waiting for the promise of their God,

Jesus said that Abraham knew my day and he rejoiced...and take a moment to reflect upon the response of the Jews and the Pharisees...

the promised Messiah the Christ of God to descend to where they were waiting for him, knowing what Moses had said that he deliver the people from Egypt, but not him, that's is not him to deliver them, and that God will raise up someone else like him, a prophet, who will take them to the Heavenly Inheritance, the Heavenly promise Land...so they can be together with their God...

The scriptures referred to that by calling them, the first fruits of the Harvest...the first ones to receive the eternal Life and to be included in the imputed righteousness of Jesus Christ and made co-heirs of Heaven together with him...

The first fruits from the Harvest, Jesus Christ presented them to the Heavenly Father. The first Harvest in the New Covenant. 

Abraham with Issac and Jacob and all the house of Jacob-Israel who were together with Abraham after their death, were the first to be under the banner of Jesus Christ...the first fruits to receive the Life, the Eternal Life from Jesus Christ...they were alive to the Heavenly Father in Jesus Christ...

 

 

Edited August 10, 2022 by Your closest friendnt

[Mike Mclees]

While working on a job as a block layer I was praying for understanding about the present church why there so much confusion in that we had so many denominations. It was spoken into me The Lord said ignorance, apathy, and unbelief would destroy the church.  There are those who go to meeting every week but do not truly seek with hunger and thirsting to know Him, and their Bibles are rarely read. Jesus also said, not all who say Lord Lord shall enter into Heaven.

Edited August 10, 2022 by Mike Mclees

[Your closest friendnt]

@AdHoc

I have to let you wait for awhile till you understand some things on your own.

There is something else that I have to deal with first.

Thank you.

[AdHoc]

14 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

@AdHoc

I have to let you wait for awhile till you understand some things on your own.

There is something else that I have to deal with first.

Thank you.

Thank you too - and God bless