Ask Me Anything About Christianity

[DeighAnn]

1 hour ago, Hobie_ said:

Hope this is a good question.. Do Christians still believe Christ will take them to heaven to be in His Kingdom, or has that changed...?

I believe that Christians have been going to heaven to be in His Kingdom ever since the graves opened.  Isn't that what the gift of Salvation is all about? 

Isn't Hades for the DEAD and Heaven for the LIVING?  

John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in Me shall never die. Believest thou this?


If you look at the Judgment of the DEAD, you find their names MIGHT be found written in the book of life at which point they too would receive their immortality.  So if the gift of Salvation doesn't WORK NOW, and the LIVING will be resurrected out from the dead ALONG with the DEAD,  then what is the GIFT about,  if you can STILL be saved at the very end?  
 

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

 

[DeighAnn]

3 minutes ago, ayin jade said:

Its the devil as protector of the mercy seat bit that I do not see in scripture. 

Satan WAS a cherub.  Cherubs protect the Mercy Seat.  The Mercy seat is a part of the Ark of the Covenant.  


He only became Satan  when  iniquity was found in him...

 

Edited September 22, 2022 by DeighAnn

[Starise]

1 hour ago, Hobie_ said:

Hope this is a good question.. Do Christians still believe Christ will take them to heaven to be in His Kingdom, or has that changed...?

I believe many Christians mainly want to be where God is in a place He is the only one controlling with evil gone forever. I mean, we already see what happens when this isn't the case.

I seen one brother almost cry as he pounded his chest and said, " I just want to go HOME"

I believe I can surely sympathize with my brother's feelings on this. Down here on earth now- WHAT A MESS.

I will go out on a limb to say MANY believers are not exactly sure about what going to be with the Lord really entails. Exactly how it all ends up and the process in between.

We have visions of living in some distant land with God on a throne and us living the good life with Him, which is sort of accurate, but not a very detailed imagining of it.

It's not as if someone flips a switch and we wake up on a bed of ultra white to the sound of harps playing and overweight fluffy winged beings flitting around like little fat cherubs, mostly the examples put forth by artists of the victorian era. Angels is like little fat Buddas with wings only they look like little children. And Jesus is like old uncle Ernie, going around slapping everyone on the back asking them if they had enough to eat.

Neither do I believe heaven is serious as a heart attack, where an angel stands on the ready to pop anyone who isn't worshiping properly with a heavenly ruler. "See Sam up there in line 3?. Yeah the one with all the welts he can't seem to get his stuff together."

I know I'm rambling here. I have been told my answers are too long too.

I would say YES I believe Christians look forward to being with the Lord in His kingdom, only most of them don't really now what that means. 

[ayin jade]

1 minute ago, DeighAnn said:

Satan is a cherub.  Cherubs protect the Mercy Seat.  The Mercy seat is a part of the Ark of the Covenant.  

Satan is a fallen angel, regardless of being a cherub. That is one cherub that is not protecting the mercy seat. The cherubs that protect it are images that God told moses to create. Not real ones. 

[DeighAnn]

Just now, ayin jade said:

Satan is a fallen angel, regardless of being a cherub. That is one cherub that is not protecting the mercy seat. The cherubs that protect it are images that God told moses to create. Not real ones. 

It was before the 'fall'.... How HIGH a place he fell from  

[Sower]

5 hours ago, johann pretorius said:

Pride is the last to go, we all have some "pride" in us, even "holy Joe's" are prideful, ENVY and jealousy comes in many forms and manifestations.

 

“  If I knew about you like you know about you, I wouldn't listen to you”

                but,

“If you knew about me what I know about me, you wouldn’t listen to me either.”

Remember hearing that from pastor/teacher J.Vernon McGee  (fellow Texan)

 

[DeighAnn]

6 minutes ago, Starise said:

It's not as if someone flips a switch and we wake up on a bed of ultra white to the sound of harps playing and overweight fluffy winged beings flitting around like little fat cherubs, mostly the examples put forth by artists of the victorian era.

I think it is.  There are two worlds.  One seen and one unseen.  We are in one or the other. (or on our way)

There is a throne.  There are those who are around the throne.  There is worshipping going on.  There are 'courts' for a lack of a better word that watch 'books' being unsealed.  There is the Accuser accusing day and night.  There are wars.  The tabernacle a 'replica' of the one in heaven.  I am not being exact here but just to give an idea of how much we are told.  We see the 'vehicles' in Ezekiel that are used...

Just saying it isn't all that different,

but I just found  myself with a really big problem in my understanding...

but it doesn't change any of that.. 


Sorry, gotta go. 



 

[Starise]

25 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

I think it is.  There are two worlds.  One seen and one unseen.  We are in one or the other. (or on our way)

There is a throne.  There are those who are around the throne.  There is worshipping going on.  There are 'courts' for a lack of a better word that watch 'books' being unsealed.  There is the Accuser accusing day and night.  There are wars.  The tabernacle a 'replica' of the one in heaven.  I am not being exact here but just to give an idea of how much we are told.  We see the 'vehicles' in Ezekiel that are used...

Just saying it isn't all that different,

but I just found  myself with a really big problem in my understanding...

but it doesn't change any of that.. 


Sorry, gotta go. 



 

DeighAnn, Our eventual new normal won't be until after the millennium. After Satan is thrown into the pit for the last time and all evil uprisings are stopped forever.

Is this how you see it? In my opinion this is our forever state, so whatever that is is our permanent new home.

[ayin jade]

1 hour ago, DeighAnn said:

It was before the 'fall'.... How HIGH a place he fell from  

The mercy seat though is after the fall. Unless you know where in scripture the mercy seat is before the fall? 

[Dan Knight]

12 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

That simply does not line up with what God said about Job. 

And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that [there is] none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? - Job 1:8 KJV

I don't know what your understand of self righteousness means.  God calls all to live righteously.  My understand of self righteous is someone who pretends to be righteous outwardly but in their personal and private life they are corrupt and evil.  This does not describe Job.

God said he was a perfect and upright man, one who fears God and shunned evil.

 

Then God afflicted an innocent man. 

For what?