Climate Change Is Extremely Political And Agenda Serving, Unfortunately It Is Also True

[Rick-Parker]

20 hours ago, JimmyB said:

They are secretly funded by Martians to alter the earth's climate before the coming invasion of their forces.

Why do you have to say "stuff" like this?

[JimmyB]

53 minutes ago, Rick-Parker said:

Why do you have to say "stuff" like this?

I don't know how it happened, but I did not send that text.  I would never say anything so absurd.  Either the messages have been "crossed" or the site has been hacked.

[JimmyB]

2 hours ago, Sparks said:

You can't go run to Wikipedia, talk about the atmosphere 10,000 years ago, and call that evidence.  There is no evidence we humans were even here 10,000 years ago (that includes both the silly ideas of evolution and likely ideas of creation).

If you want to provide the 10,000 year old studies from the 10,000 year old scientific groups, I will be happy to review them.   Until then, I think Wikipedia is lying. 

wikipedia happens to be a very reliable source of information.  It doesn't matter to me whether you think "wikipedia" is lying or not.  It is a central source of excellent information written and edited by knowledgeable people.  I certainly believe them more than I believe you. 

BTW, there is ample evidence that humans existed far, far earlier than 10,000 years ago.  Researchers have found evidence of early tool-making and fire use inside the Wonderwerk Cave in Africa.  The scientists date the human activity in the cave to 1.8 million years ago.  There is also evidence of humans in the Americas 23,000 years ago.  Your unsubstantiated opinion therefore has no merit.

Edited December 14, 2022 by JimmyB

[JimmyB]

On 10/26/2022 at 7:02 PM, Sparks said:

When it comes to dating methods, they have all been debunked.  As for biological 'evolution,' global climate change, they have, too.

Whenever you catch yourself saying something happened 14,000 years ago, just remember, someone told you that, and they were guessing.  They had no evidence for it.

Knowledge is very painful for some people, including yourself.  What is your "evidence" that dating methods, biological evolution, all global climate change have all been "debunked"?

[Sparks]

16 minutes ago, JimmyB said:

wikipedia happens to be a very reliable source of information. 

Hardly, considering that you and anyone else could write there.  The real problem isn't that socialists run that place and lie all the time, its that you cannot reliably talk about 10,000 years ago without having lived at the time.  You can't, they can't, and no one can.

16 minutes ago, JimmyB said:

BTW, there is ample evidence that humans existed far, far earlier than 10,000 years ago.  Researchers have found evidence of early tool-making and fire use inside the Wonderwerk Cave in Africa.  The scientists date the human activity in the cave to 1.8 million years ago.  There is also evidence of humans in the Americas 23,000 years ago.  Your unsubstantiated opinion therefore has no merit.

You cannot reliably date things from the past, so no, that's not true.  Uranium-lead, Rubidium-strontium, Fission track dating, Radiocarbon dating, Samarium-neodymium dating and about 100 others are very clever, the instruments are exceedingly accurate, and the scientists are smart, but don't work to date or age things.

I have challenged some alleged scientists here to translate isotope values to time, and none could.  Really no one can.  That's the issue is reference points, and calibration is not possible without a time machine.  

[Sparks]

1 minute ago, JimmyB said:

Knowledge is very painful for some people, including yourself.  What is your "evidence" that dating methods, biological evolution, all global climate change have all been "debunked"?

Oh yes, debunked.  I have been posting it.  Do you have a specific question for this thread?

[JimmyB]

21 hours ago, S33k3r said:

More of your childish accusations and claims.

Yes, let's do trust the science. After all, that's the foundation of the scientific process, right?

Wrong.

Science was founded upon the concept of NOT simply trusting what others claim. There is much empirical evidence to support the fact that CO2 has absolutely nothing to do with what is going on with our weather. 

There is evidence from all over the world that the chaotic weather events that are coupled with the climate changing everywhere also coincide with the use of these experimental weather devices that have been used since prior to Katrina.

Yes, when all the weather craziness first began.

What is your evidence for saying that there is evidence from all over the world that the chaotic weather events that are coupled with the climate changing everywhere also coincide with the use of these experimental weather devices that have been used since prior to Katrina?

[JimmyB]

3 minutes ago, Sparks said:

Hardly, considering that you and anyone else could write there.  The real problem isn't that socialists run that place and lie all the time, its that you cannot reliably talk about 10,000 years ago without having lived at the time.  You can't, they can't, and now one can.

You cannot reliably date things from the past, so no, that's not true.  Uranium-lead, Rubidium-strontium, Fission track dating, Radiocarbon dating, Samarium-neodymium dating and about 100 others are very clever, the instruments are exceedingly accurate, and the scientists are smart, but don't work to date or age things.

I have challenged some alleged scientists here to translate isotope values to time, and none could.  Really no one can.  That's the issue is reference points, and calibration is not possible without a time machine.  

Oh, I see.  You can reliably talk about 10,000 years ago, but scientific experts know nothing?  Really?  You are in serious denial!

[Sparks]

3 minutes ago, JimmyB said:

Oh, I see.  You can reliably talk about 10,000 years ago, but scientific experts know nothing?  Really?  You are in serious denial!

I know you think you are superior to us all, but you might at least try to debate the issue and not the person (ad hominem), and try to be polite. 

The misinterpretation of the facts, even by scientist, is not science.  Science is observation and testing (called the scientific method).  You cannot observe and test 10,000 years ago, because you are not there.   If you have a time machine I don't know about, then maybe.

I will tell you what:  I had a great meal 3 weeks ago in a fine restaurant.  Tell me what it was that I enjoyed so much.  I will let you hire a crack team of scientists to help you out, but I think you will find that you have the same issue telling me what I ate as you do telling the weather 10,000 years ago.  Personally, I think you will have an even harder time establishing evidence that he Earth was here 10,000 years ago, but that's a debate for another time.   

So, what type of testing do you want your scientists to do to determine what I ate?

17 minutes ago, JimmyB said:

What is your evidence for saying that there is evidence from all over the world that the chaotic weather events that are coupled with the climate changing everywhere also coincide with the use of these experimental weather devices that have been used since prior to Katrina?

I have already answered this in other posts. 

[other one]

44 minutes ago, JimmyB said:

I don't know how it happened, but I did not send that text.  I would never say anything so absurd.  Either the messages have been "crossed" or the site has been hacked.

 

If you didn't write this George needs to know.    There are very very few people who have the power to change posts.   I have not seen those words anywhere else that could have gotten crossed.    

 

BTW I can't change anything but my own posts.