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I don't recall that it is but I can't imagine why not.  Did I miss it?  


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1 hour ago, Not of the World said:

I don't recall that it is but I can't imagine why not.  Did I miss it?  

No it is not. God gives mankind freedom of choice. We can choose to follow Him and take a stand for righteousness, or we can rebel against Him and pursue evil. The problem resides in the heart of man.


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1 hour ago, Not of the World said:

I don't recall that it is but I can't imagine why not.  Did I miss it?  

 

If the bible says jews are God's chosen people. Who are blessed.

Perhaps we can deduce that they will be most hated, targeted more than other demographics.

By forces of evil who run the world.


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7 minutes ago, Space_Karen said:

 

If the bible says jews are God's chosen people. Who are blessed.

Perhaps we can deduce that they will be most hated, targeted more than other demographics.

By forces of evil who run the world.

I completely agree but it seems odd to me that such a horrific event wasn't apparently prophesied.  


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2 minutes ago, Not of the World said:

I completely agree but it seems odd to me that such a horrific event wasn't apparently prophesied.  

 

There's no point in prophecy.

People never listen.

We're not smart enough to heed those types of warnings.


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1 minute ago, Not of the World said:

I completely agree but it seems odd to me that such a horrific event wasn't apparently prophesied.  

This may be because the prophecies of the OT related to Israel the nation which ceased around 70 AD.

This is one reason why I think the way I do about all of the end times theories folks have and make much of.


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3 hours ago, Not of the World said:

I don't recall that it is but I can't imagine why not.  Did I miss it?  

I’m wondering if the Holocaust was prophesied in Ezekiel 37.  Thoughts?   -s


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3 hours ago, Not of the World said:

I don't recall that it is but I can't imagine why not.  Did I miss it?  

No need for it to be prophecied.

 


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28 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

I’m wondering if the Holocaust was prophesied in Ezekiel 37.  Thoughts?   -s

Yes, I can definitely read the holocaust into Ezekiel 37:2-10. There were mountains of dried bones (corpses) buried everywhere in mass graves. Good work Selah, you beat me to it. :D

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On 11/4/2022 at 12:25 PM, Alive said:

This may be because the prophecies of the OT related to Israel the nation which ceased around 70 AD.

This is one reason why I think the way I do about all of the end times theories folks have and make much of.

 Israel, 'THE NATION' ceased to EXIST when the House of Judah was taken away into captivity 580 years before Christ was born. Persians, Greeks, Herods, Romans ruled over Jerusalem, not Israel.  They had the temple rebuilt but they were no longer a nation. 

And there were many prophecies that covered that period.  


I am completely amazed to hear...all of it from Israel being a nation until 70AD and that all the OT prophecies ceased when the nation did.  How do you account for the promises and covenants that were unconditional?  

What is going on in the world today?  What part does the bible play?  Do you account Revelation and Daniel to be separate events or was John given a vision of what he would have witnesses 25 years previous to the vision and the rest was just to be disregarded?  


Could you tell me when you believe all these things took place? 

1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

6And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

7But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

8And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

9And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

10All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.

11And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

12And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

13And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the LORD shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.

14And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.

15And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.

16And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

17And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

18And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

19This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

20In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD; and the pots in the LORD'S house shall be like the bowls before the altar.

21Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.

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