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15 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

I don't how to respond.  

My words are in purple, text size 20, and bolded.


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16 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

Literally is how to take scripture, but written words can be forced to support or oppose a particular position. But to be able to do that, one must get into the Hebrew and Greek grammar. How many are willing to do that?

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10 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

My words are in purple, text size 20, and bolded.

How did you get YOUR WORDS into my post?  It looks like I said that.  Seems to be a bit of that going on.  

 

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48 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

? Where is the spiritual body referenced?

Well, all those who took the mark of the beast are destroyed aka suffer the first death when Christ arrives 

as we know 
those who are alive and remaining are changed and forever with the Lord and we know those who took the mark of the beast aren't going to be raised up to immortality,

hence they are going to die

leaving all unsaved persons in hell.  The reason 'the dead resurrect' or no one to rule and reign over unless we ruled and reigned in hell, right?

Since the body we sow is not the body that is raised

and they have all suffered the first death (sown)

and only the 2nd death is left (LOF).....




God couldn't have a bunch of evil people going around killing each other for 'another' 1st death, so their bodies are going to have to be spiritual, imperishable but mortal, except in the lake of fire. 


We also have the Justice and vengeance side that has to happen for those of hell death and the sea.  What would be the point if the 'super easy to kill body' went into the lake of fire. Surely some need to 'suffer' a bit to receive back what they have done.  


I am sure the 'bare grain' the body produces when sown (that GOD GIvES a body to) has SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT VENGEANCE, don't you?  I don't have any Scripture so just speculating here.  




 

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20 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

How did you get YOUR WORDS into my post?  It looks like I said that.  Seems to be a bit of that going on. 

Not meant to put my words in your writing. Usually when I have a multipart answer to a long post, I can split into a post and answer the points made by the writer. For some unknown reason, your post wouldn't allow me to do that. This has happened to me before so it's not your fault. If you prefer I never do that again, if I can't split your posts I'll just answer the last question I feel a need to answer. I'm okay with that.

I'm trying to get along with everybody.

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23 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

Well, all those who took the mark of the beast are destroyed aka suffer the first death when Christ arrives 

as we know 
those who are alive and remaining are changed and forever with the Lord and we know those who took the mark of the beast aren't going to be raised up to immortality,

hence they are going to die

leaving all unsaved persons in hell.  The reason 'the dead resurrect' or no one to rule and reign over unless we ruled and reigned in hell, right?

Since the body we sow is not the body that is raised

and they have all suffered the first death (sown)

and only the 2nd death is left (LOF).....




God couldn't have a bunch of evil people going around killing each other for 'another' 1st death, so their bodies are going to have to be spiritual, imperishable but mortal, except in the lake of fire. 


We also have the Justice and vengeance side that has to happen for those of hell death and the sea.  What would be the point if the 'super easy to kill body' went into the lake of fire. Surely some need to 'suffer' a bit to receive back what they have done.  


I am sure the 'bare grain' the body produces when sown (that GOD GIvES a body to) has SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT VENGEANCE, don't you?  I don't have any Scripture so just speculating here.  




 

The subject of this thread is not Revelation.


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1 minute ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

Not meant to put my words in your writing. Usually when I have a multipart answer to a long post, I can split into a post and answer the points made by the writer. For some unknown reason, your post wouldn't allow me to do that. This has happened to me before so it's not your fault. If you prefer I never do that again, if I can't split your posts I'll just answer the last question I feel a need to answer. I'm okay with that.

I'm trying to get along with everybody.

You are getting along with me just fine.  I just didn't think to hit the expand button so never saw your words.  No, I am fine with that.  And you are not the first person to have this issue.  I am trying to keep my posts short, well, shorter just doesn't always work out that well.  So it is just fine because now I know if I see a blank that it will be found above.  So, keep up the good work and the getting along cause for some reason it is really really hard to do.  Come between someone and their beliefs and doesn't take much to get under the skin.. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

The subject of this thread is not Revelation.

Sorry, I wander sometimes

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1 hour ago, DeighAnn said:

You are getting along with me just fine.  I just didn't think to hit the expand button so never saw your words.  No, I am fine with that.  And you are not the first person to have this issue.  I am trying to keep my posts short, well, shorter just doesn't always work out that well.  So it is just fine because now I know if I see a blank that it will be found above.  So, keep up the good work and the getting along cause for some reason it is really really hard to do.  Come between someone and their beliefs and doesn't take much to get under the skin.. 

I'm really trying to be less caustic in certain replies. I get along with you just great, but it's not the same with everyone.

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1 hour ago, DeighAnn said:

Sorry, I wander sometimes

That's okay. I don't have the knowledge that type of discussion deserves to stay on track. I am woefully inadequate at this time but I will get there if the Lord tarries. Now if it was 1 Enoch, Daniel or Matthew 24-28, I'd wade in. If science comes up, hold me back

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