Addictions, bad and good........tattoos of Bible verses; thoughts?

[Mozart's Starling]

1 hour ago, farouk said:

@Mozart's Starling FYI........this thread.......any wisdom.?

I am an alcoholic that has been clean for with only a  few fall backs (3 in total) in 2 months now. It doesn't sound like much but to me it is a step in the right direction. I have also been taking my medicine consistently (I am on psych meds for bipolar disorder and OCD) and that has helped as well. I do think addictions can be positive, after all in that psalm thread you posted it mentions delighting in the ways of the Lord. So as long as your obsessive and addicted to matters of God it can only be a good thing. We are supposed to always have him in mind after all.

Edited March 21, 2023 by Mozart's Starling

[farouk]

37 minutes ago, Mozart's Starling said:

I am an alcoholic that has been clean for with only a  few fall backs (3 in total) in 2 months now. It doesn't sound like much but to me it is a step in the right direction. I have also been taking my medicine consistently (I am on psych meds for bipolar disorder and OCD) and that has helped as well. I do think addictions can be positive, after all in that psalm thread you posted it mentions delighting in the ways of the Lord. So as long as your obsessive and addicted matters of God it can only be a good thing. We are supposed to always have him in mind after all.

@Mozart's Starling Thanks for your comments; as you will see the thread has attracted quite a lot of comment already - particularly about the tattoo aspect- which seems to be quite a topical matter.

[farouk]

"I still want one, but for as much as I try to iron out my wrinkles they just get  worse. Oh well, maybe a wrinkle pattern in more a American Samoa style tattoo is all I might handle. I have liked those bold wide solid black lines, kind of warrior looking markings."

@Neighbor So I guess you are still undecided?

[farouk]

On 3/11/2023 at 3:42 PM, Marathoner said:

"Why yes, I do": 

 

[farouk]

On 3/17/2023 at 10:50 PM, com7fy8 said:

Aren't there stick-on tats? They are not permanent, and you could change locations on your body or swap with other tats for when they are appropriate. 

What you put on yourself now might be connected with your present maturity and ability to be honest with yourself. So, you might not be wise to do anything now which you won't be able to change when you are more mature and wise.

Hi @com7fy8 On the specific aspect of whether tattoos are supposedly not "lady-like", I don't buy this at all - whatever other considerations may come into play.

If someone tried to advance the idea that they are supposedly not "lady-like", there's overwhelming evidence to contrary, IMHO, 2c.......

[com7fy8]

29 minutes ago, farouk said:

Hi @com7fy8 On the specific aspect of whether tattoos are supposedly not "lady-like", 

I would say it depends on if the tat is ladylike or not 

[kwikphilly]

On 3/17/2023 at 11:24 PM, Roymond said:

I considered this at one point:

τε†έλεσται

[Once again I find myself missing the word processor I had on my old Leading Edge computer:  it could "double bold" -- bold something, then hold <shift> + bold and it would make it even more bold.  The †  symbol is supposed to be very bolded compared to the rest of the word.]

For those who don't read Greek, that's τετέλεσται (te-TEH-les-tie), the one-word sentence Jesus proclaims from the Cross that means "It is (totally and completely now and in eternity) finished!"

Note that there are three taus -- τ -- in the word, so it displays the Crucifixion:  a center τ  (cross) for Jesus, one closer to the center that stands for the thief who repented, and one far from the center for the thief who only cursed Jesus.

Wow,Some time ago Joseph Prince was giving a sermon ,not sure if you've ever saw him but he usually will teach a little referencing Koine,he's very good explaining language and symbolism,you might enjoy his preaching some time

Anyway,I remember this well as it is something he addressed specifically,it's pretty Awesome- thanks for sharing,I don't think I would have remembered this had you not brought it up👍

[JohnR7]

On 2/3/2023 at 11:09 AM, farouk said:

I was thinking that sometimes compelling pursuits can have good outcomes.

My son is very aggressive, like my brother. But they use this in a positive way to get a good education and to get good grades. They end up being leaders in the community because they go above and beyond what others are doing in a positive way; .

[farouk]

4 minutes ago, choir loft said:

Tattoos are forbidden by the LAW of Moses.  

Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD. (Leviticus 19:28)

Tattoos are also forbidden by Islam.

"It was narrated that Abu Juhayfah (may Allah be pleased with him) said: 'The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) cursed the one who does tattoos and the one who has a tattoo done.' " - Sahih Bukhari (hadith literature)

Tattoos are placed by and approved by PAGAN religions and spiritualists.  

While Americans approve of tattoos as a cheap way to tell a story on their skin or to refer to some event or person, they do not realize there's a reason for doing it or not doing it.

In pagan religions, tattoo marks have a spiritual connotation.  

Generally speaking the spirits of the tattoo artist, the ink, and the skin illustration invoke demonic powers and entities.  They do so by yielding the authority of the one BEING marked to that which will inhabit and influence the bearer of the mark.

THERE IS A REASON the Bible and Islamic Hadith literature forbid tattoos.

The REASON isn't just to deny artistic expression.  

The REASON is to deny demonic influences upon those who would otherwise not welcome it.

Not all things are innocent.  Tattoos are one of them.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

Paul says in 1 Corinthians 10.21: "Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils."

I take that as implying that for example a Bible verse/ref. tattoo will not cause the wearer to lose his or her salvation. There is plenty of other Scripture for the true believer's eternal security.
 

[farouk]

"My kid knew I was not thrilled with my own faded tats & how they look after many years so he never got one until much older as I think I discouraged him" @kwikphilly PS: Just to say that some ppl do go back to the tattoo artist and have a bit of pigmentation added to existing tattoos if after years they have gotten faded. (I don't think this has been mentioned; this is quite widely practised.)