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16 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

Correct.  The second beast(the one who had the fatal wound and came to life) is termed as the a/c.  The False Prophet is the one doing miracles and wonders in front of people and causing people to worship the A/c and receive his mark.  Both are cast into the LOF before the 1000 reign of Christ.

In Christ

Montana Marv

Their are 5 entities in Rev. 13, the beast with 7 heads and 10 horns, the dragon, the mouth speaking great words, the 2nd beast with 2 horns and the image of the 1st beast. 


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16 minutes ago, bloom said:

Their are 5 entities in Rev. 13, the beast with 7 heads and 10 horns, the dragon, the mouth speaking great words, the 2nd beast with 2 horns and the image of the 1st beast. 

10 kings would be 10 entities alone, right?

12And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.





 


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24 minutes ago, bloom said:

Their are 5 entities in Rev. 13, the beast with 7 heads and 10 horns, the dragon, the mouth speaking great words, the 2nd beast with 2 horns and the image of the 1st beast. 

Yes, (from Rev 13) A first Beast nation or group of nations with leaders (7 heads and 10 horns), the dragon gives the power to the one head who had the fatal wound. The next beast is the False Prophet who does wonders and makes people worship the beast with the fatal would and to take his Mark. 

So in essence the a/c and False Prophet rule for the first 3 1/2 years of the 70th Week; and Satan/Dragon when thrown out of heaven knowing his time is short is in charge for the second 3 1/2 year period.  IMO this is when the S.T. and B judgment begin.  And when the Two Witnesses show up before midweek, thus inspiring the a/c to set up the A/D in the Temple.  The Two Witnesses interrupted the a/c's parade.

In Christ

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On 4/7/2023 at 6:33 AM, FJK said:

Just a question out of curiosity:  If you're still here when the Mark is given out, will you take it?

If so, or if not, why would you make that choice?

As you will see...as we are moving deeper into the end of the age...things are going to become worse and worse in terms of human existence. The demonic presence is growing both in number and affect...and when the constituency of that religious woman realizes the was never going to be a rapture...they will be given an opportunity to choose...the mark of God...worship the Lord Yahshua...or the MOTB...worship Satan.

At this present moment in time...the beast is gaining control of all that human life depends upon...and will have complete control of it all much sooner than any of you who "dwell on earth" will appreciate.

As this happens there are only two options available to mankind...One...bow to the beast system and worship him...as his slave...which means..."you will own nothing and be happy"...so you can gain access to that which you need to survive...which will be a lie...sound familiar? 

It should...it is how the vast majority of the world lives today...and have lived on this earth all along...they are not in Christ...they were...are...and will be marked by the beast...in this way...it's an issue of worship.

Next...there are those who are in Christ...they are in the kingdom of God...the house of the Father...the temple of God where the Lord Yahshua is on His throne...those who "dwell in heaven" the Sons of God that are beginning to emerge in the earth...are the ones who are directing Gods creation to its judgment...

To answer your rhetorical question...I must say this...I have His name [Yahshua] and the name of His Father written on my forehead. Which is the only way to not be marked by the beast.


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On 4/7/2023 at 6:45 AM, Selah7 said:

Does anyone think that the MOTB can be “taken” now?

Or do you believe the MOTB can only be taken when the AC is here? 

s e l a h

I would not necessarily word it like that..."can be taken now" like you take aspirin...whoever does not have the mark of God...has the MOTB...that does mean now...and millions of people are sporting it.

Tatwo...:)


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12 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

10 kings would be 10 entities alone, right?

12And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.





 

Rev. 13:1 , 10 horns and 10 crowns. How is this possible?  


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44 minutes ago, bloom said:

Rev. 13:1 , 10 horns and 10 crowns. How is this possible?  

Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name.

- Revelation 13:1 

This verse is referring to a one-world government system governed by 10 kings (fallen angels) that the Antichrist brings with him.  

s e l a h


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12 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name.

- Revelation 13:1 

This verse is referring to a one-world government system governed by 10 kings (fallen angels) that the Antichrist brings with him.  

s e l a h

Where is this antichrist person in the Word?


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….continued from above 

There are two “beasts” that are mentioned in Revelation 13.  The first beast is written about in verse 1.  In Revelation 13:11-13, we read about the second beast:

Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name.

- Revelation 13:1 

Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.

- Revelation 13:11-13

*The first beast mentioned in Ch. 13 is a one-world system. The second beast mentioned is the AC.

s e l a h

 

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20 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Rev 13:15,16 The False Prophet - He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refuse to worship the image to be killed.  He force everyone small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead.  So no one could buy or sell without it.

Rev 13:3 - The whole world was astonished and followed the beast who had the fatal wound. v.10 - If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity he will go, or they will be killed with the sword.

Rev 14:9,10 - If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his Mark on the forehead or on his had, he too will drink of the wine of Gods fury... He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of God and the holy angels.  There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast or receive the Mark of his name.

I familiar with these passages Marv...and we probably agree upon their meanings...at face value it is that simple. Perspective in this is so important...you either interpret these things from the throne of God [heaven...Spirit] or from the throne of Satan [earth...fleshly]. That all depends upon how one is "marked." Judgment follows the MOTB.

There are two "families" if you will on the earth at this time and it has been that way since the Garden...and it will continue that way until the end of this creation. They are "seed of the woman" Christ...and the "seed of the serpent" Satan.

Marv...do a fairly deep dig into the book of Revelation on these two concepts..."dwell on earth" and "dwell in the heavens" then consider Paul's words..."For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named"...Christ is the name...in heaven and on earth at the same time. Eph. 3:14-15 KJV

Just before that Paul encourages us with this..."That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:" Eph. 1:10 KJV

You look at those scriptures you listed above from a very different view than I...that's fine it must be that way...you likely think...in the rapture those in Christ are going to be gone from the earth in heaven somewhere...again if you believe that have all of that you can get...there is plenty.

I...however...understand...that the throne of God...a symbol of His power and authority as well as the "seat" of High priest...making this throne of God the throne of the "Royal Priesthood." This throne is presently located in the "temple of God" which is...on the earth and in heaven simultaneously...now...and since Pentecost continuing until the end of Gods present creation.

The on earth portion is the physical "Christ"...Head on Body...and it is so...because of the Holy Spirit indwelling...the Spirit of God the eternal Father...in His temple [Body]...on the earth...He...the Son of God...the "corporate man"...has a heavenly address as well...of course it was always going to be that way...

Now as such...for those of us who understand things like Daniels "man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river" and Ezekiel's "wheel in the middle of a wheel" and John's "four living creatures"...which as I have experienced makes no sense to most...we...us...those upon the throne of God are the very ones delivering the judgement of God upon the earth...from the earth...as the birth pangs increase up to the the end of the age.

The end will be glorious for the Son of God...on earth and in heaven...this is when the Lord of all creation will tear the "veil" between the invisible heavens and the visible earth to reveal His eternal reality which has always been right here...just "veiled"...to all of carnal creation...

Tatwo...:)

 

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