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What constitutes salvation and how do you know you are saved, some say once saved always saved, some say you can lose ones salvation and

some say there is no such thing as salvation and no hell and no life after death.


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1 minute ago, backontrack said:

some say there is no such thing as salvation and no hell and no life after death.

But what to you say?

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Just now, backontrack said:

What constitutes salvation and how do you know you are saved, some say once saved always saved, some say you can lose ones salvation and

some say there is no such thing as salvation and no hell and no life after death.

Regardless of what others say, what does the Bible say? "Unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God." (John 3:3) Letting Christ into us facilitates this.  We are reborn, regenerated with a new life - His children - and become a new creation in Him! (2 Cor:5:17)


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My questions was to you'all not to me. 


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1 minute ago, backontrack said:

My questions was to you'all not to me. 

You probably also saw my posted response . . . and as to the idea of "once saved always saved" - do children ever somehow become unborn?


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Yep I missed your response 

Nicodemus wanted to know how to be unborn one might say. 

 

Can one lose there salvation or does a backslider lose his salvation. 

Now one or some say he was never saved from the beginning since God knows everything he must know who will be saved

and who will not be. 

I know what the bible says about the subject but man oh man so many the 10,000 teachers seem to all have difference of opinions. 


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37 minutes ago, backontrack said:

What constitutes salvation and how do you know you are saved, some say once saved always saved, some say you can lose ones salvation and

some say there is no such thing as salvation and no hell and no life after death.

Salvation is deliverance from God's condemnation through faith/trust/belief in the saving work of Jesus Christ on the cross on your behalf.  Paul's answer to the jailer's question of what he MUST DO to be saved.  Acts 16:30,31

In John 5:24, Jesus said whoever believes has (possesses) eternal life and WILL NOT be condemned.

Then, in John 10:28 Jesus said He is the One who gives eternal life, and recipients shall not perish.  So the Bible teaches OSAS and refutes the notion of loss of salvation.

Those who say there is no such thing as salvation and no hell and no life after death are called FOOLS in the Bible.  Psa 14:1-3

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Gee I didn't have to know any of that stuff. There was no test given, no portfolio submission demand of me  at all. God just up and "got me" one day. That was that. Later on learned it was to answer the prayers of someone else that I was turned about by the Holy Spirit to Yeshua as my Lord God and savior.

Still haven't had an exam, just a grand ride through life reborn or born again, never to be lost by Yeshua.

 

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Indeed. The Lord claimed as His own, and thus began this life hidden in Him.

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1 hour ago, backontrack said:

What constitutes salvation and how do you know you are saved,

Romans 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.  11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

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some say once saved always saved, some say you can lose ones salvation and

You cannot lose your salvation but you can lose your first inheritance for being found in unrepentant iniquity.  That loss of being that vessel unto honor in His House to be received by Him at the rapture event for the Marriage Supper in Heaven will be keenly felt.

That is why, now that we are reconciled to God through Jesus Christ, we should live that reconciled relationship with God through Jesus Christ by how after salvation, we are to look to the author & finisher of our faith, Jesus Christ, to help us run that race by enabling us to lay aside every weight & sin daily in walking in the light in fellowship with the Father & the Son.  We do this by faith in Jesus Christ as our Good shepherd & friend to follow Him to avoid losing our crowns and avoiding becoming a castaway.

1 Corinthians 9:24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. 25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. 26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: 27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Look at how former believers that would verbally deny Him will be denied by Him, as in left behind at he rapture, but He still abides in them which is why we are to call even former believers to go to Jesus for help to see the truth in His words to believe in Him again to be ready as a vessel unto honor in His House which is the eternal glory that comes with our salvation in Christ Jesus..

2 Timothy 2:10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory. 11 It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: 12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: 13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

2 Timothy 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

Hebrews 12:1Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, 2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

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some say there is no such thing as salvation and no hell and no life after death.

And what reasons do they have to be moral and treat you right and with respect?  None.  They are probably the most miserable people on the planet while they keep getting worse and worse in their sinful lifestyle. 

Seek the Lord Jesus Christ & believe in Him that God has raised Him from the dead, and you shall be saved.  Then believe in Jesus Christ to be your personal Good Shepherd & Friend to help you to follow Him in abiding in Him & His words daily as kept in the KJV Bible by those who loved Him to keep His words.

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