Do we have to sin

[Abdull]

My brothers i have been in thinking about things, and i think now that if we dont sin a little bit then wouldnt have jesus have died for nothing? I do not know if this is correct but please tell me about what you think about this

[Mr. M]

18 minutes ago, Abdull said:

My brothers i have been in thinking about things, and i think now that if we dont sin a little bit then wouldnt have jesus have died for nothing? I do not know if this is correct but please tell me about what you think about this

Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? 2 Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? 3 Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. 11 Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts.

15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not! 16 Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness?

22 But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

In other words, the answer to your question is found in...

[Jayne]

There is no sinless perfection.  Not even after salvation.  As long as we live on this earth and live in this fleshly body - we will sin.  That's why John says in 1 John that "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."

However, we do not HAVE to keep sinning to make Jesus' blood effective.  We SHOULD try our dead-level best NOT to sin ever again.  We should be sick at our stomachs when we sin and ashamed grievously.

If sinning does not bother us - there's a deep problem.

 

[Michael37]

50 minutes ago, Abdull said:

My brothers i have been in thinking about things, and i think now that if we dont sin a little bit then wouldnt have jesus have died for nothing? I do not know if this is correct but please tell me about what you think about this

Hi Abdull,

Biblical Theology teaches that BECAUSE Adam sinned all are counted sinners, all are under the curse of death which is the penalty for sin. Christ redeems sinners from the penalty, power, and presence of sin, so before Creation came to be, the sacrifice of Christ the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world was ordained. As our Lord and Saviour, Christ has paid the ransom price for our redemption.

Check it out.

Rom 5:12  Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, so also death was passed on to all men, because all sinned.
Rom 5:19  For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
1Co 15:21-22  For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.  (22)  For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.
 

[Vine Abider]

31 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

Hi Abdull,

Biblical Theology teaches that BECAUSE Adam sinned all are counted sinners, all are under the curse of death which is the penalty for sin. Christ redeems sinners from the penalty, power, and presence of sin, so before Creation came to be, the sacrifice of Christ the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world was ordained. As our Lord and Saviour, Christ has paid the ransom price for our redemption.

Check it out.

Rom 5:12  Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, so also death was passed on to all men, because all sinned.
Rom 5:19  For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
1Co 15:21-22  For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.  (22)  For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.
 

And to clarify, we were all in Adam. So he, as the head of the human race, passed that fallen nature to all of us.

But hallelujah, we are now in the Last Adam, Jesus Christ, the second, new man - and His righteousness is now passed to all regenerated believers!

[Desopixi Seilynam]

The good news

"Whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do you even so to them,
for this is the law and the prophets" Matthew 7:12

"For this, do not steal, do not commit adultery... and if there be any other command
it is summed up briefly in this saying, namely; Love your neighbor as yourself,
love works no ill to his neighbor therefore love is the fulfilling of the law"
Romans 13:8-10

Eating pork is a sin.
Wearing mixed fabric is a sin.
Working on any of the appointed Sabbaths (there is more than just the weekly Sabbath) is a sin.
Not fasting on the appointed days is a sin.
Eating the wrong kinds of food is a sin, there are lists of bad and good foods.
Supposed to wear the law on your hands and have a blue ribbon on your clothes.
Supposed to never shave off your beard, you can trim it, but never shave it all off.
There's all kinds of rules like that, that we likely break.

And so the good news is what Jesus preached, and that all we have to do is follow Him.
Just listen to what He said to do, and He summarized His preaching in one sentence.

That's really good news to a Jewish audience, a people trying to keep all 600 some odd laws.

And it is good news for anyone desiring to please God.

What Jesus preached is the good news. [Luke 4:16-21, 2 Thess 1:8]

We should never sin willfully against His simple teachings, that is the base aim,
and by His Spirit we are definitely empowered to that end;
love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, meekness and self control.

[The_Patriot21]

Do we have to sin? Tough question. I would say if your going out and sinning intentionally, with pre meditation, then you have a problem. The Bible has a lot to say about unrepentant sin, and if your intentionally sinning, then it's unrepentant. 

But, if your going through your day and someone cuts you off in traffic and out goes the bird out of reflex...well, it's still sin as it's not loving, and you should still try and make it right (ask God for forgiveness, if possible apologize to the party wronged etc) but it wasn't pre meditated. It was our human nature that takes over.

So do we have to sin? We shouldn't sin. Ever. 

Do we sin? Can we legitimately live in this planet without sinning? That's an entirely different question.

[R. Hartono]

6 hours ago, Abdull said:

My brothers i have been in thinking about things, and i think now that if we dont sin a little bit then wouldnt have jesus have died for nothing? I do not know if this is correct but please tell me about what you think about this

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/287845-the-tree-of-knowledge-showed-that-wickedness-was-found-before-the-creation-of-human/

 

[com7fy8]

9 hours ago, Abdull said:

if we dont sin a little bit then wouldnt have jesus have died for nothing? 

All of us have sinned before we trusted in Jesus. So, all of us need how Jesus on the cross died for our sins.

Also, Abdull, that is not the only reason why Jesus shed His blood and died for us.

Jesus went to Calvary in order to bring us to God, to reconcile us with our Father, to get us adopted to become God's children, and to get us started in all the good of the New Testament.

Jesus suffered and died on the cross in order to be our example of how we are to love and forgive >

"And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma." (Ephesians 5:2)

Also, you can look at Ephesians 4:31-32 and Luke 23:34, which can feed us how to forgive like God through Jesus has forgiven us.

And Jesus as our High Priest has gone through experiences of this life so that now Jesus can feel what we are going through and help us with His grace which made Him able to please God and love while going through everything > Hebrews 4:15.

God bless you 

[Neighbor]

13 hours ago, Abdull said:

My brothers i have been in thinking about things, and i think now that if we dont sin a little bit then wouldnt have jesus have died for nothing? I do not know if this is correct but please tell me about what you think about this

Hi, No such thing as a little bit of sin. In for a pint in for a pound, and the price is death.

Presents a bit of a problem, eh?

It cannot be reconciled, - except by Jesus.