What will the `catching away be like? `

[Marilyn C]

 

1. `In the twinkling of an eye.` (1 Cor. 15: 52) We are changed that quick that no one will see.

2. We will have the same body as the Lord`s that is able to go through dimensions. Remember that the Lord came into the room where the disciples were without going through the door. So no visual there.

3. We will be coming together all the more as we see the day approaching, (Heb. 10: 25) so no one will be just going about life as usual. The Holy Spirit will be stirring in our hearts that the Lord is at the door.

4. Immediately after we go the Russian Federation & others will be coming over the Golan heights with the greatest army that there ever was or will be. (Joel 2: 2) The world wont know we have gone for the war will bring great fear and fill every screen.

5. Many thousands of people go missing every week across the world - evicted/homeless, kidnapped. holidays, moving, etc.

How many people would know you had gone? If it was reported it would only add to the missing numbers. Nothing unusual there. There is no central station that is recording specific people that are missing across the world.

6. The next Sunday the organizational public meeting will go on as usual. Most people will be there. No drama there.

7. The world will go on without us and no one, except close family will really know or even care. Life will become so hard with all the judgments upon them that just living daily will be the need. 

Marilyn.

[Starise]

Since I don't believe we are caught away until the very end at the last trump, I don't see there being a bunch of missing people unless many of us are delivered up for failing a social score of some kind which is a possibility.

Child trafficking, one of the saddest things besides abortion, will continue until evil men are destroyed.

I realize the argument is " we can't be here because bad things are happening". I don't go for that mainly because I see us as being protected here same as always. I see lots of biblical support for my view. It isn't about what we see, it's what we don't see and then read things into.

[FJK]

6 minutes ago, Starise said:

Since I don't believe we are caught away until the very end at the last trump, I don't see there being a bunch of missing people unless many of us are delivered up for failing a social score of some kind which is a possibility.

Maybe its already taken place and there weren't enough people affected for anybody to notice?

[Starise]

Just now, FJK said:

Maybe its already taken place and there weren't enough people affected for anybody to notice?

Yeah I don't see a secret rapture do you?.She used the term catching away. Sometimes I'll listen to various arguments on a subject and last evening I just happened to have a long video of a pre trib preacher on. His argumants and comments further solidified my position.

To bring in a harvest I think people will need to wake up. In order to wake up things need to happen IMHO. The things prophesied to happen. 

Now I don't want to loose fellowship with any of you over my position, but I can't get away from it when I look at the whole bible. If you see it differently as many do, that's fine.

There are concerns and even dangers with some beliefs because they lead to actions. These actions can be counter producive to our mission.

[FJK]

9 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

2. We will have the same body as the Lord`s that is able to go through dimensions. Remember that the Lord came into the room where the disciples were without going through the door. So no visual there.

This could be the subject of much discussion.  Jesus said we would be as the angels when talking about the after life, but did -does- Jesus have the same body as the angels since he is one of the three persons of God?

One thing I'm sure of is that we will no longer be men or women, male or female, since there will be no more death and without death there is no need for birth of new people to replace those who have died

Maybe we will be more like Adam was before Eve was taken out of him, and maybe that will be in physical bodies in a different physical world or maybe spiritual bodies in a world in a different -non physical dimension- world with very different characteristics than the one we are in now.

In any event, I don't think we will be like Jesus, like God, but this just what I think and I could be entirely wrong about it.

[Ray12614]

9 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

 

1. `The twinkling of an eye.` (1 Cor. 15: 52) We are changed that quick that no one will see.

2. We will have the same body as the Lord`s that is able to go through dimensions. Remember that the Lord came into the room where the disciples were without going through the door. So no visual there.

3. We will be coming together all the more as we see the day approaching, (Heb. 10: 25) so no one will be just going about life as usual. The Holy Spirit will be stirring in our hearts that the Lord is at the door.

4. Immediately after we go the Russian Federation & others will be coming over the Golan heights with the greatest army that there ever was or will be. (Joel 2: 2) The world wont know we have gone for the war will bring great fear and fill every screen.

5. Many thousands of people go missing every week across the world - evicted/homeless, kidnapped. holidays, moving, etc.

How many people would know you had gone? If it was reported it would only add to the missing numbers. Nothing unusual there. There is no central station that is recording specific people that are missing across the world.

6. The next Sunday the organizational public meeting will go on as usual. Most people will be there. No drama there.

7. The world will go on without us and no one, except close family will really know or even care. Life will become so hard with all the judgments upon them that just living daily will be the need. 

Marilyn.

 

35 minutes ago, Starise said:

Since I don't believe we are caught away until the very end at the last trump, I don't see there being a bunch of missing people unless many of us are delivered up for failing a social score of some kind which is a possibility.

Child trafficking, one of the saddest things besides abortion, will continue until evil men are destroyed.

I realize the argument is " we can't be here because bad things are happening". I don't go for that mainly because I see us as being protected here same as always. I see lots of biblical support for my view. It isn't about what we see, it's what we don't see and then read things into.

So you hold to the 'mid-trib',?  Just wondering . . . not contentious . . . 

Me personally . . . I am an 'escapist'. I pray that I am counted worthy to escape all those things as Jesus declared in the gospels.

Bad things we are seeing, and will continue to see more and more . . . it is the wrath of God I don't think we will see since it is way worse than the plagues of Egypt where God made a difference between Goshen and Egypt.

But either way . . . I am committed to serving and following Jesus . . . no compromise.

 

 

[AdHoc]

9 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

 

1. `The twinkling of an eye.` (1 Cor. 15: 52) We are changed that quick that no one will see.

2. We will have the same body as the Lord`s that is able to go through dimensions. Remember that the Lord came into the room where the disciples were without going through the door. So no visual there.

3. We will be coming together all the more as we see the day approaching, (Heb. 10: 25) so no one will be just going about life as usual. The Holy Spirit will be stirring in our hearts that the Lord is at the door.

4. Immediately after we go the Russian Federation & others will be coming over the Golan heights with the greatest army that there ever was or will be. (Joel 2: 2) The world wont know we have gone for the war will bring great fear and fill every screen.

5. Many thousands of people go missing every week across the world - evicted/homeless, kidnapped. holidays, moving, etc.

How many people would know you had gone? If it was reported it would only add to the missing numbers. Nothing unusual there. There is no central station that is recording specific people that are missing across the world.

6. The next Sunday the organizational public meeting will go on as usual. Most people will be there. No drama there.

7. The world will go on without us and no one, except close family will really know or even care. Life will become so hard with all the judgments upon them that just living daily will be the need. 

Marilyn.

Greetings Marilyn. Here is my understanding of your published points.

1. The "twinkling of an eye" is not the Rapture. It is the time it takes for a living Christian to be changed from his/her corrupted body to their resurrection body. The Rapture is a "snatching away" not a metamorphosis.

2. You may be correct but I don't think scripture says this. We will have Body like Christ but in a diminished glory (1st Cor.15:35-41)

3. Hebrews 10:25 is the command. But 2nd Thessalonians 2 says there will be a falling away. I judge that the meetings will get smaller.

4. Russian soldiers might be part of the army that meets Christ, but I understand that the Beast and the "kings of the earth" own the armies. That is, a United Nations army

5. Scripture says that for the "Taking" of the saints, our Lord comes as a Thief. A Thief comes with stealth, removes what is valuable and disappears with stealth. But no doubt the raptured will be missed by immediate family.

6. Agreed.

7. The Beast is a despot of despots. People will be going missing all the time. When this happened in Russia, China and Argentina nobody said anything. The bottom line is that God is not a God of disorder. The rapture will hardly draw attention. The official excuse will not want to support the Bible anyway, and news-reporters are well known for doing what the editor says, who in turn follows his boss's instructions.

[Starise]

1 hour ago, Ray12614 said:

 

So you hold to the 'mid-trib',?  Just wondering . . . not contentious . . . 

Me personally . . . I am an 'escapist'. I pray that I am counted worthy to escape all those things as Jesus declared in the gospels.

Bad things we are seeing, and will continue to see more and more . . . it is the wrath of God I don't think we will see since it is way worse than the plagues of Egypt where God made a difference between Goshen and Egypt.

But either way . . . I am committed to serving and following Jesus . . . no compromise.

 

 

I believe as the bible says we will be raised at the "last trump" or just before it. The last trump doesn't happen until, well, the end of that chain of events. Trumpets are not silent, so how anyone gets anything secret from this I don't quite gather. It corresponds to when our Lord comes in the heavens which won't be much of a secret either

I don't believe we will see the wrath of God which to me means we will be protected for the wrath intended for those who rebelled and didn't follow God.. Some believe this to be a snatching away before major events transpire because they see it as the only solution to safety, but I believe we can be protected while here if we are still here. Neither does this idea negate that some may be martyred.

There is a purpose for God allowing this to happen for a time to some of His own. I mean, He sent His own Son to die, so it only stands to reason, we are followers of His and may experience His suffering in that capacity. Not really any different than what happens even now in various places on earth. Martyrdom of believers is not the wrath of God. 

 

[FJK]

1 hour ago, Starise said:

Martyrdom of believers is not the wrath of God.

That's a good way to put it.

[TheBlade]

Thanks Sis I like and noticed how you asked it. Anything I say will just be speculation. I do wonder will I be walking or going to work or shopping or going to bed and I stop.. I sense in the spirit something is about to happen and poof gone? Will I hear the voice, shout, trump?

Since you didn't ask for a debate .. all I will say. But OOH YES SIS! YES! Praise GOD GLORY GLORY GLORY TO JESUS! Only time I love to CAP. Yes shouting it!